1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

a brand new Toyota has "break-in" oil. Correct?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by ERdept, Jan 13, 2008.

  1. Jan 13, 2008 at 1:51 PM
    #1
    ERdept

    ERdept [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2007
    Member:
    #3187
    Messages:
    996
    Gender:
    Male
    I went to get Mobile 1 Extended Life and my neighbor who has 4 toys says not to do that.

    He says the new Toyotas have special break in oil and shouldn't be changed until the first oil change.


    Crazy? Correct?
     
  2. Jan 13, 2008 at 2:41 PM
    #2
    TacoSter

    TacoSter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2008
    Member:
    #4090
    Messages:
    259
    Gender:
    Male
    Chicago Burbs
    Vehicle:
    08 TRD Sport
    I would venture to say (not fact) that he is right... I've had a few to many new cars over the last 6 yrs and all of them have break-in oil
     
  3. Jan 13, 2008 at 6:00 PM
    #3
    concrete jedi

    concrete jedi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2007
    Member:
    #3142
    Messages:
    2,741
    Rochester N.Y
    Vehicle:
    06 Tacoma 4 door indigo blue
    Broken and scratched tailgate, cracked rear tail light lens, coffee stain in driver seat.
    I have not heard of "break in" oil, but I have heard that many will not go synthetic until many more miles, maybe like 5000 +, I am at 35,000 miles and am still using dino. oil, not sure what I am going to do.
     
  4. Jan 13, 2008 at 6:46 PM
    #4
    marvin02

    marvin02 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2007
    Member:
    #3427
    Messages:
    73
    Vehicle:
    '07 Access Cab SR5 - Black
    Top Dawg Folding Tonneau Cover, DIY Bed Light, Aux. Input for MP3 Player, OEM Bed Mat
    This is the first I have ever heard of Toyotas having a special break-in oil.

    There is no mention of it in the owner's manual.

    It has always been my practice to change the oil early in the break-in period since most of the wear happens then and this gets the particulates out of the engine. I have done this with new cars and with engines I have rebuilt.

    There are differing opinions on going to synthetic oil early. Some recommend waiting, the interval depends on who is making the suggestion. You can check out this thread for a discussion of that.

    My personal practice is to change at 500 miles and at 1500 miles using a good quality dino oil (just because it seems a waste to run synthetic that few miles) and a new filter. Then I change at 5,000 miles with Mobile 1 and change at 5,000 mile intervals after that. Doing the two oil changes in the first 1,500 miles is probably overdoing it, but a quality oil change won't do any harm.
     
  5. Jan 13, 2008 at 6:46 PM
    #5
    WilsonTheDog

    WilsonTheDog Kylie's dad

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2007
    Member:
    #3496
    Messages:
    4,837
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Myrtle Beach SC
    Vehicle:
    07 Prerunner SR5 DC/SB V6
    Magnaflow 12576 muffler & chrome tip, Westin step bars, 27% tint, Pop N Lock, AFE ProdryS, bed mat, Husky liners, D-rings added, Access Literider tonneau, Pioneer 4-ways all around, GY Wrangler Duratracs 265/75/16, 5100's @ 1.75", 1.5" AAL
    If anything, you should change your oil early. The "break in" oil may contain metal from the engine breaking in. I typically change mine at 1500 miles on a new vehicle and go right to synthetic. There's no reason at all to wait on synthetic anymore, if there ever was, and synthetic is superior to dino, anyway. This isn't 1947.
     
  6. Jan 13, 2008 at 7:56 PM
    #6
    ERdept

    ERdept [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2007
    Member:
    #3187
    Messages:
    996
    Gender:
    Male
    I researched on other Toyota forums and half the people say there is a special oil and the other half says it's the same oil we all buy over the counter.

    Well, I'm sure there's not harm to change it early AFTER the break in period, but before the 5 K mile service.

    There cannot be just clean oil in there. I really cannot believe manufacturers have come so far that the engines don't make any particles.
     
  7. Jan 14, 2008 at 3:42 AM
    #7
    cvillechopper

    cvillechopper Jackass to the masses

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2007
    Member:
    #3378
    Messages:
    538
    Gender:
    Male
    Charlottesville, VA
    Vehicle:
    12 DCSB TRD Off-Rd 4x4, Roof Rack, Tube Steps
    K&N drop-in air-filter, extra D-rings, Custom Console lock-box, Leather heated seats, Studly Driver
    I changed my oil with basic conventional oil @ 1000 miles and there was enough particulate to make me very glad I did. It's been my practice with new and engines I rebuild and I have always found a nice shiny (metallic paint looking) film on my collection container.
     
  8. Jan 14, 2008 at 5:53 AM
    #8
    GratefulPred

    GratefulPred Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2008
    Member:
    #4052
    Messages:
    18
    FAR Western Kentucky
    Vehicle:
    08 Access Cab 4x4 SR5 Black 5 Speed 4 cyl
    Hardwired Sirius satellite radio & ipod adaptor, weathertech floor liners, more to come...
    I picked up my new Tacoma on Thursday and I noticed the oil change, from the dealer, sticker says I need to change it at 5000. I am going to call the dealer and make sure the Service Guy was not smoking crack prior to writing that down because I have already put 1000 miles on it.
     
  9. Jan 14, 2008 at 6:10 AM
    #9
    cvillechopper

    cvillechopper Jackass to the masses

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2007
    Member:
    #3378
    Messages:
    538
    Gender:
    Male
    Charlottesville, VA
    Vehicle:
    12 DCSB TRD Off-Rd 4x4, Roof Rack, Tube Steps
    K&N drop-in air-filter, extra D-rings, Custom Console lock-box, Leather heated seats, Studly Driver
    It's not required and will not effect your warranty to change the oil before 5K. From experience, many people change around 1K as it can have an effect on the longevity of the engine.
     
  10. Jan 14, 2008 at 7:13 AM
    #10
    Janster

    Janster Old & Forgetful

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Member:
    #1138
    Messages:
    14,256
    Gender:
    Female
    First Name:
    Jandy
    Lancaster, PA
    Vehicle:
    2016 GMC Canyon SLT w/ LineX and....
    I have heard of the 'break-in-oil', but I honestly don't know the details.

    All I know is..... wait a bit. Why waste the $$ changing the oil right away?

    I changed mine to Mobile 1 at 3,000 miles. I figured that was enough time for the majority of the break-in residue (from the engine) to be cleared out (so to speak).

    And yes, the Tacomas have 5,000 mile oil change interval. I think the maintenance light comes on and flashes at 4500 miles and as you reach 5,000 miles, the light will stay on. I'm still waiting to see mine light up.
    I reset the light after my 1st oil change at 3,000 miles. My former 96 tacoma oil change interval was 5000 miles. I only went 4,000 miles cuz It was always 1/2 qt low by that time. Instead of topping it off, I just changed it.
     
  11. Jan 14, 2008 at 6:23 PM
    #11
    ZonKs

    ZonKs Can speak french in Russian.

    Joined:
    May 30, 2007
    Member:
    #1711
    Messages:
    1,055
    Gender:
    Male
    Glendale, CA
    =p
    I just changed out the Dino yesterday at 5000 miles. I put in Mobile 1. Maby its just me, but the truck seems to run smoother now. Yeah, its prob just me.
     
  12. Jan 16, 2008 at 4:20 PM
    #12
    pdxyota

    pdxyota Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Member:
    #4235
    Messages:
    64
    First Name:
    Greg
    PDX
    Vehicle:
    '05 4x4 2.7L SR5 access cab, TSB
    TSB
    Straight from a Toyota rep, there is NO such thing as a "break-in" oil, but if you want to do something helpful change the oil in your brand-new car/truck at about 1,500-3,000 miles because there are little beasties in the engine that come off into the oil, remove it asap and switch to synthetic from then forward.

    Bottom line: You can use non-synthetic from day one, change it every 3,000 and you will not have an "oil" related problem with your Toyota engine ever. it's always something else; alternators, timing (I have the chain so I'm not worried), starter, etc.

    Change out ALL of your front & rear differential oils ASAP to dyno or synthetic, you will SH*T when you see the garbage in the gear oil and on the magnetic plug. Change out the transmission at 30,000 to dyno or synthetic, same thing and do it every 30,000. I have Amsoil in the tranny, Mobil1 in the front/rear & transfer case.

    Myth!
     
  13. Jan 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM
    #13
    LRH

    LRH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    Member:
    #2159
    Messages:
    303
    GA USA
    Vehicle:
    '07 2.7L PreRunner
    I don't think there is any special oil for break-in, but it does end up with a high moly content due to the assembly lube used at the engine plants.
     
  14. Jan 17, 2008 at 7:41 PM
    #14
    ERdept

    ERdept [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2007
    Member:
    #3187
    Messages:
    996
    Gender:
    Male
  15. Jan 13, 2010 at 2:38 PM
    #15
    Airwolf NSX

    Airwolf NSX Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Member:
    #21450
    Messages:
    158
    Gender:
    Male
    Irvine, CA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Tacoma TRD Sport Double Cab
    i heard with AMSOIL, you can go 10,000miles without changing it?
     
  16. Jan 13, 2010 at 3:14 PM
    #16
    sweater914

    sweater914 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2009
    Member:
    #12597
    Messages:
    228
    Gender:
    Male
    North Dakota
    Vehicle:
    '09 I4 5spd Access Cab Timberland Mica SR5
    Yes, using certain Amsoil oils allows you to extend your drain interval up to 35,000 miles. The filter should be changed at the Toyota recommended interval. The high end Amsoil engine oil retails for about $10 per quart.
     
  17. Jan 13, 2010 at 3:23 PM
    #17
    NAAC3TACO

    NAAC3TACO Just east of crazy

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2008
    Member:
    #8350
    Messages:
    4,268
    Gender:
    Male
    Sparks, NV
    Vehicle:
    2014 SR5 DCLB 4x4
    Color matched door handles, Weathertech floor liners, bed mat, Durafit seat covers, tailgate clamp, 2016 TRD Sport 17" wheels with Toyo A30 tires, Toyota exhaust tip, Toyota/Yakima bike rail mount, Toyota wheel locks, Toyota hitch cover.
  18. Jan 13, 2010 at 4:07 PM
    #18
    DriverSound

    DriverSound Señor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Member:
    #15329
    Messages:
    3,702
    Gender:
    Male
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    15 DCSB OR 4x4 & 15 Mustang GTPP
    Too few to list. 10 4runner SR5 4x4- 09 Pre-Runner TRD-OR AC- 14 Prius Two- 08 xB
    There are no "breaking in" required since the engines are broken in from factory. Now if you rebuild the engine yourself, then a break in is required but as far as break in oil, I believe they do sell them (high contents of moly) but last time I've seen one was like a decade ago at a specialty shop.
     
  19. Jan 13, 2010 at 4:27 PM
    #19
    sincitytaco

    sincitytaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Member:
    #10011
    Messages:
    870
    Gender:
    Male
    Las Vegas
    Icons, Bilstein 5100, Rear Leaf TSB, 17x9 American Racing Chamber Teflon, 275/70/17 Goodyear
    Break in oil, what a farse. You should change the oil early. I don't need to give a shit though because i Have a lease.
     
To Top