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Advantage/Dis-Advantages of welding vs. bolt-on

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by SPORT, May 6, 2011.

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Do you prefer to bolt-on or welded rock sliders? Why?

Poll closed Jun 5, 2011.

  1. Weld the damn thing on! It ain't going anywhere.

    49 vote(s)
    45.4%

  2. Bolt on for easy removal/replace

    39 vote(s)
    36.1%

  3. Glued on. huh? (Elmers)

    20 vote(s)
    18.5%
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  1. May 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM
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  2. May 6, 2011 at 2:55 PM
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    I did both welded and bolted!
     
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  3. May 6, 2011 at 2:55 PM
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  4. May 6, 2011 at 3:00 PM
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    Damn I should have!! :D


    No I have demello hybrid bolt ons I drilled the frame bolted then welded the plate.
     
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  5. May 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM
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  6. May 6, 2011 at 3:08 PM
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  7. May 6, 2011 at 3:08 PM
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    Damn it! That means I have to redo it. I will and post up results ASAP!
     
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  8. May 6, 2011 at 3:10 PM
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    Ok...I read thru a little of this, and the conclusion I have come to is (correct me if Im wrong), DHK wants bolt on sliders, but using existing holes. Despite the holes not being drilled for aloowing the slider to have the propper leverage advantage. Welding on the frame turns it into a pomagranite......or the like.

    My thoughts. DHK has more mood swings than a lady going thru menopause.
    If welding on a frame is bad, about 50 million people need to be informed of this, and I should contact some friends about it. They are going to be SHOCKED to hear the shit they welded on their frames years ago, can cause the frame to crumble at any time.....
     
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  9. May 6, 2011 at 3:16 PM
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    :goingcrazy:So your saying that I am not safe on the road because I welded to my frame? OMG
     
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  10. May 6, 2011 at 3:18 PM
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    DHK is. Sadly, My frame is doomed as well. I welded about 4 points on it to mount my fuel tank skid....:(
     
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  11. May 6, 2011 at 3:20 PM
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    Ill be sure to post up when my frame crumbles into pieces. Although Im sure it may out live me.
     
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  12. May 6, 2011 at 3:21 PM
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    I'm doomed because of all the places my rollcage, suspension components, and engine mount gussets are welded to my frame. :pout:
     
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    You should bubble wrap your truck now its the only way to truly be safe!
     
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  15. May 6, 2011 at 3:45 PM
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    one thing dhk got me thinking though, it would suck to get into an accident, and then have some scumbag lawyer try to link my mods as a cause to something...but i guess thats why i pay my insurance company and let their lawers worry bout it :anonymous:
     
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  17. May 6, 2011 at 4:32 PM
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    I honestly stopped reading this around page four. But race car engineering 101: the stronger/stiffer the chassis the more efficiently the suspension can function. There is no such thing as something being too structurally sound if it's held up by some sort of shock absorbing device(ie. the vehicles suspension). This thread is proof a little knowledge in the wrong hands is a dangerous thing; in this case also very annoying.:rolleyes:
     
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  18. May 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM
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    Absolutly! What ever you do...DO NOT Weld Sliders to your house!
     
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  19. May 6, 2011 at 4:44 PM
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    There is a difference though between something like a race chassis, which was designed to be structurally stiff all the way around, and our truck chassis which were designed to flex in certain locations. If some parts of the frame were strengthened, technically the remainder of the frame is being exposed to forces that it wasn't exactly designed for. It's possible that this can cause a premature failure in the areas of the frame that weren't stiffened. But luckily, Toyota engineers (as all engineers do) use a factor of safety when designing their frames. Adding some metal to the frame by welding on sliders, will not stiffen the frame to the point where there is a serious risk of breaking the frame.
     
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  20. May 6, 2011 at 5:20 PM
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