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all-pro or dakar?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by hard2kill, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. Oct 3, 2011 at 11:39 PM
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    S.B.

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  2. Oct 4, 2011 at 1:09 AM
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    MY50cal I think I'm getting the Fear.

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  3. Oct 5, 2011 at 6:07 PM
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    all i know is i have a crappy 1.5in block out back with the stock 3 leaf pack and billy 5100 and my brake lines were tight at full flex...i actually bent my bracket alil just so it wasnt tight...
     
  4. Oct 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM
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    BassMaster06

    BassMaster06 VA ○ ES ○ SC

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    looking for more input on the standard all pro 3" leaf pack......my stock non-tsb springs are frowning and looking to lift soon and I'm doing my research on an alternative to the dakars, since they are $$$ and I don't carry/haul heavy stuff often...any takers on this one? an AAL is out of the question at this point.
     
  5. Oct 19, 2011 at 4:41 PM
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    FearNothing321

    FearNothing321 Do you know Tyler Durden?

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    the regular All Pros will also eventually sag as well (don't take my word, I do not have them). I'd get the Expos or the Dakars if it were me.

    Search on here and there are plenty of complaints that the regular pack tends to sag after awhile.
     
  6. Oct 23, 2011 at 4:36 PM
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    4Wheelin4Banger

    4Wheelin4Banger Longtime Toyman

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    3" OME lift 885s & Dakars riding on 33" KM2s Click the sig pic to see the build thread .
    I got a full 3" lift front & back.
    885s up front trim packer no spacer. Dakars in rear.
    Didn't measure center hub to fender before lift, did fender to ground before and after.
    After I did center hub to fender 24 1/4" with full tank of gas.
    Great ride on & off road.
    Still need to get my wheel well fillers.
    [​IMG]
     
  7. Oct 23, 2011 at 5:16 PM
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  8. Jan 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM
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    Fox 2.5 Internal Bypass C/O RR, Camburg UCA, Fox bumps, King 2.5 Racing 10'' smooth bodies RR on rear with custom shock mounting points and hoop, Allpro Expo Leafs, Snugtop XV, Icom 208h.
    Do all Dakar packs have a overload spring it them? I see a lot of Dakars on here with either overload or add a leaf. Do they come standard without? I don't see either in this photo: http://www.trdparts4u.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=-7251

    I'm in between the Dakar or Expo pack. I have a double cab with a snugtop and I don't want a overload or add a leaf.
     
  9. Jan 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM
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    OZ-T

    OZ-T All of those moments....will be lost.....in time

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    Dakars come with 2 overloads

    You can add another leaf to the pack , it is an OME AAL , the d29xl which adds approx 5/8" of lift to the pack
     
  10. Jan 1, 2012 at 2:02 PM
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    Smooth ride and great flex ?
    Neither.
    Deaver is what you want as long as you don't have a need to haul heavy loads.
    Deaver specializes in high lift/high flex.
     
  11. Jan 1, 2012 at 2:07 PM
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    tacoman_KC

    tacoman_KC Hurray for Zoidberg!

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    I've got no complaints on my All Pro's. I've hauled a few heavy loads of 500lbs and they handled it very well. However be aware that the all pro's will sometimes squeak when you hit bumps. Overall though, I am happy with them.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Jan 1, 2012 at 4:16 PM
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    Fox 2.5 Internal Bypass C/O RR, Camburg UCA, Fox bumps, King 2.5 Racing 10'' smooth bodies RR on rear with custom shock mounting points and hoop, Allpro Expo Leafs, Snugtop XV, Icom 208h.
    Do you have the expos or standard?

    It's a 2 wheel drive so all the offroading I do is in the desert and mostly high speed stuff, so I'm not looking for an overload spring. The only thing that has me worried about the Allpro standard pack is my camper shell and I carry 8 gallons of gas in the bed. I also will be putting a full size spare in the stock spare hanger. I don't tow or carry anything else. I have Fox C/O RR with Camberg UCA and Fox bumps in the front so I'd like to keep it level. If I go with the Expo pack I'm worried the rear end might be too high.

    Thanks for any feedback.
     
  13. Jan 1, 2012 at 4:29 PM
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    I'm loving my expos and 10in icons awesome ride even unloaded.... I'd recomend them for high speed as long as a good shock is used.. For example my icons make the 5100 feel like junk
     
  14. Jan 1, 2012 at 4:34 PM
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    zeropresence

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    Thanks. I'm looking at doing a 2.5 shock and I've heard Icon makes one, my 2.0 fox's are right against the frame. I wonder how a 2.5 fits. My plan is to sell the Fox 2.0 and get an extended length shock as I need that anyway for the 3'' springs.
     
  15. Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM
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    Get the new 2.0 10in icons like I have except get the resivors on them and you'll be more then happy !!!! I don't high speed much so I don't need the resi's ....
     
  16. Jan 1, 2012 at 7:40 PM
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    I would like to go 2.5. But thank you for the feedback on the Expo, I think that's the route I'm going to go. Anyone running Expos or standards with a shell?
     
  17. Jan 1, 2012 at 10:09 PM
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    They are the standard set I believe.
     
  18. Jan 1, 2012 at 10:11 PM
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    maxamillion2345 Go home if you don't like guns liquor and whores.

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    The only time I don't like my Dakars is when I drive over speed bumps at any speed other than a crawl.

    They flex just fine though and overall I really like them and I'd buy them again if I needed to.
     
  19. Jan 1, 2012 at 10:14 PM
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    I've had my expos on for a couple weeks now and they are way better than the stupid lift block and add-a-leaf were
     
  20. Jan 1, 2012 at 10:34 PM
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    I've had both.
    My dakars were great, flexed alot (check my build), I towed alot when I had them and they were great.

    Now I have ap 3" leafs on my new truck. I have a loaded toolbox and steel CBI rear bumper. I like these leafs alot too. I've still towed with them just fine. I got them to be a little smoother at high speeds. Paired with kings they're doing just fine.
     
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