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Are all Tacoma brakes so sensitive?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Theproximian, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. Mar 17, 2017 at 8:41 PM
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    Theproximian

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    As a first-time Tacoma owner, I have been used to driving an Impala LTZ, which is a sportier version of the car and handled quite well. Driving the Tacoma is taking some getting used to. The brakes stop well enough but seem to require a very light touch, especially when coming to a stop, especially right before the complete stop. The slightest excess pressure feels like I've stepped on them too hard, throwing the passenger forward a bit. Are there any adjustments or after-market parts that can improve this, to make the vehicle handle better, or do I just need to get used to it?
     
  2. Mar 17, 2017 at 8:42 PM
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    The Off Road brakes are significantly more sensitive
     
  3. Mar 17, 2017 at 8:58 PM
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    Thanks. Excellent write-up on Halogen & LED!
     
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  4. Mar 17, 2017 at 8:59 PM
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    PapaBear Never test how deep the water is with both feet.

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    I've never been more confused in my life, did two threads just cross streams or something? And why is this posted in 1st gen?
     
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    Crashnburn replied to my comment about brakes. He also happened to have a link to something he had written about lights, which I read and commented on. No, this thread is about brakes. Sorry to confuse.
     
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  6. Mar 17, 2017 at 9:11 PM
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    PapaBear Never test how deep the water is with both feet.

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    I can understand, you are new. Welcome by the way. Just made me laugh because you didn't quote him or use his username and I thought TW had broke :rofl:
    Just FYI, the quote button is at the bottom right of each post, click on the post you want to quote and it automatically puts his comment and info down in the comment box. Then you can type your comment to him below the quote itself. Makes it easier to respond to specific people and doesn't confuse others lol
     
  7. Mar 17, 2017 at 9:19 PM
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    Thanks!

    If viewing on mobile, turn phone sideways to get the signature to display in which I have lighting links. Quotes won't quote signatures.

    By increasing your tire size to 1" over stock 265/70R17 or 265/75/R16 will take the edge off the brakes. Be sure to stay on C-load though, and not get heavy E-load tires.
     
  8. Mar 17, 2017 at 9:39 PM
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    PapaBear

    PapaBear Never test how deep the water is with both feet.

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    I'm confused, did you just add to my comment or something else? Quotes never quote signatures, you would have to manually do that but I didn't even want to go there being its his second day on lol
    In my opinion, I think it's just something to get used too. Personally I dont have that problem, things seemed to settle out for me at about 30k miles. Even with new rotors, pads, re machined drums, shoes, and new rear brake cylinders and a full fluid flush, all at 98k miles and I'm only 1k miles into the new set up. I kind of wish I actually had better braking then what I have now so cherish it while you can and brake lightly and further back to accommodate your picky passengers that think a truck should ride like a car :D
     
  9. Mar 17, 2017 at 10:59 PM
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    I upgraded to BFG all terrains 32's with 16" rims and that weight made my stock brakes suck (IMO)
    I have since upgraded to the Tundra front Brakes & 33 tires....The stock Brakes are already sucky, So the Tundra brakes do what you think the stock Brakes would/should do.

    Go Tundra
     
  10. Mar 17, 2017 at 11:02 PM
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    PapaBear Never test how deep the water is with both feet.

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    I thought the Tundra conversion was only 1st gen, maybe I'm wrong but I've never seen a 2nd gen with tundra brakes so that couldn't apply to his situation. Also hes complaining of them being too good, tundra brake upgrade would be an over exaggeration of his problem.
     
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    PapaBear Never test how deep the water is with both feet.

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    Also, only upgrade besides BBK would be this: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/tacoma-brakes-swaps-and-tech.468271/ seems the 5th gen 4runner rotors and calipers from 2014-present would fit 2nd gen and 3rd gen but again hes complaing of them being too good, which to me is the polar opposite of most taco owners.
     
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    Isn't this the 1st Gen Section ?

    Tundra front Brake conversions are for 1st Gen's..I have them on my 2004 Taco

    Did you read his gripes? He's saying they're touchy. Touchy doesn't mean good. He drove an Impala LTz or whatever.. So the brakes are going to being different either way. Sounds like, He's complaining ( tongue in cheek)

    Anyways. Stock Tacoma brakes are below Par

    **Not trying to argue or be a dick. I'm just posting my 2 pennies
     
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  13. Mar 18, 2017 at 2:08 AM
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    Yep ^^^^ x2 Go tundra brakes ot go home
     
  14. Mar 18, 2017 at 2:27 AM
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    PapaBear Never test how deep the water is with both feet.

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    No, all good, you're not being a dick. If you read OP's page he says he owns a 2015, no where near a 1st gen. I think he accidently posted in the wrong area, this thread should be in 2nd gen. That's why my original post questioned why this was in 1st gen space rather than 2nd being I saw and believe he owns a 2nd gen. Yes the Tundra brakes work on 1st gen, but not 2nd gen.

    "The brakes stop well enough but seem to require a very light touch" "The slightest excess pressure feels like I've stepped on them too hard, throwing the passenger forward a bit." Means they are really tight to him, he thinks they require too little pedal travel to brake, I have to depress at least 1/3 down before I even start to bite, he seems to be commenting that they are too tight, for instance, say he only has to push either a 1/4 of the way down or even an 1/8 and it bites pretty good, that would mean the brakes are working "too" good for him lol
    Same thing as stated above, I think he posted in 1st gen by accident, he's only been on the forum less than 3 days. Tundra brakes wouldn't work on a 2nd gen.
     
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    As a first time Tacoma owner and 38 years since my last truck I admit to being Tacoma illiterate. Also new at the whole forum thing. I didn't know there was an area for first gen, second gen, etc. The brakes work! No problem there. Just too sensitive. I know a little about the mechanics of it, but it seems to me that the problem would be in the control mechanism, i.e. master cylinder or power booster, not the brakes themselves.
     
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    PapaBear Never test how deep the water is with both feet.

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    Yep all good, I've done the same thing before. If you still have a warranty might as well just bring it in because personally I've never heard of brakes being too good or really touchy. Do you sometimes feel the truck dragging, like brakes already engaged even when not on the pedal? After you drive for a little while, without intense braking, ie try not to brake hard, go touch the drums, if they are too hot to touch, you may need to adjust in the rear. Forgot if it requires a special tool or not.
     
  17. Mar 18, 2017 at 1:14 PM
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    I was gona say. 1st gen brakes are pretty shitty. never heard of anyone complaining about brakes being to good...
     
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    The Stock Brakes suck..Bottom Line. Sorry to be blunt. Going down hill, It gets amplified.

    ANyways.....WHats your mileage, Whens the last time you had a Brake job, ETC

    Info helps...This can Pin Point your issue

    If you have any upgrades...This will Hinder youre stock brakes

     
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    Can I ask what it envolves to put the Tundra brakes on the front of a Tacoma? Meaning what parts would be needed and what kind of an expense it may be? I'd be very interested in doing this ....
     
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    Pretty much.

    Almost every vehicle across the marquee board has a slightly different feel to it. I bet in a couple thousand miles it will be a distant memory.
     

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