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Brake Upgrade: StopTech Rotors + TRD Performance Pads

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by crashnburn80, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Apr 8, 2021 at 4:37 PM
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    nudavinci64

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    Boosted Money Pit....
    pretty sure i have been running non cryo stoptechs without issues for a few years.
     
  2. Apr 8, 2021 at 6:27 PM
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    please enlighten me. It’s true I have the Sport model, but what does that give regarding the brakes vs the other models?
     
  3. Apr 9, 2021 at 6:24 AM
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    Nice, thread, i'll definitely save this for the future
     
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    I believe Sport and OffRoad have different brake boosters. Sport has “hill assist” which holds the brakes for ~2s so you don’t slip back on a hill with MT. I think some sport owners may not be aware that this is specific to sport and not available with all MT's? I definitely have no such help with my OffRoad :)

    Outside of that, I'm not up to date on the specific differences between the two boosters to know how/if one is preferable for rear disks or why the design choices lead to two different solutions based on trim.
     
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  5. Apr 11, 2021 at 12:05 PM
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    Just got my brake upgrade finished and took a 4 day off-roading/camping trip through the desert - everything worked great! I was really nice to get rid of my old setup that had terrible vibrations. Figured I'd chime in to re-confirm what's currently being shipped for the StopTech rotors.

    I purchased the cryo version with part number: 126.44129CS. They're beefier than stock in pretty much every dimension so it's no wonder they handle heat better.

    Old rotors weighed 17.0lbs
    New rotors weighed 18.2lbs
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    My old pads weren't looking so good.
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  6. Apr 13, 2021 at 9:08 AM
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    What a great forum, thanks and congrats to all that have contributed.

    Need to do front and rear brakes for my 2015 TRD OffRoad. Not happy with the Toyota OEM product or service from local dealerships (no need to elaborate what has already been discussed in this forum). Not interested in cross-drilled or slotted options - have tried on previous vehicles and found to be more hype and visual appeal that actual performance improvement. Am just looking for something as good or preferably better than OEM, have narrowed down to the Centric Premium Rotors and Drums line. I don't mind spending the extra $$ if its for real improvement, but not for hype. Given this as a backdrop have the following questions:

    1. is there any real performance gains or improvement in longevity w/ Cryogenic Treated option ... is it worth it?
    2. same question regarding the Centric High Carbon option?
    3 thoughts on Centric Premium Pads & Shoes vs. other aftermarket options?
     
  7. Apr 15, 2021 at 6:57 AM
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    Hey, we've got about the same vehicle!
    And stopping is scary! Glad to see you here, too, because I was unsure if it was the weight/heavy wheels.. or if there was simply something wrong w/ my braking system.
    Guess it's the weight. I only have a base model, so no electronic master cylinder.

    Upgrading the brakes is my next project. Not sure if I should just do the front or go all in w/ the rears.. I guess I need to read up on replacing the master cylinder, as I don't know anything about that yet..

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  8. Apr 15, 2021 at 9:19 AM
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    Yes sir! There are a few of us that have the same layout; @Steelhead Taco and @Stopmithering come to mind. I wouldn’t describe the braking as scary but definitely as fully taxed. We had one time over the last 20,000 miles where after coming down a steep mountain CO pass that I noticed the hot wheels/brakes were hot, but didn’t have any brake fade. Planning on doing the front brake upgrade in about 10 days. I’m hoping for better brake feel and no more hot front brakes. I don’t this will improve stopping distance.

    are you full-timing in our rig?
     
  9. Apr 15, 2021 at 1:45 PM
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    Well not in yours.. is that an invite? (Sorry sorry sorry sorry)

    And no.. But I'm getting a lot of use out of it. Almost every weekend and a long trip every couple months. Very happy with it!!

    Update the thread after you've tried the brakes!
    I would describe mine as somewhat scary. I don't remember if I said this here or another thread (brake discussions going on here and on the four wheel camper forum), but I cannot make the wheels lock up. ABS has never come on because the wheels never lock up. Regular driving is fine, but the few times I've needed to stop fast I have to push the pedal down as hard as I can and it just slowly slows down. Usually, luckily, have the opportunity to swerve into another lane. There was one time I would have definitely plowed into the back of a little sports car ahole driver who cut me off and slammed on the brakes (I think he underestimated the distance to his turn.. He cut me off, slammed on the brakes and turned into a store, on a little 2 lane each direction divided highway w/ no turn-offs). I could not slow down as fast as he did, and had to do a violent swerve to avoid him. And that was a tipping hazard.. ugh..
     
  10. Apr 15, 2021 at 1:53 PM
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    Andy,

    I just placed an order for some of these Powerbrake X-1's. If you haven't ordered already, you might want to check them out! :thumbsup:

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    Great news that you have ordered the Powerbrake big brake kit from OK4WD for your Tacoma. If you need replacement pads in future they have stock to support you or let us know and we have stock. We have developed specific compounds for the 4WD Tacoma’s that we sell – our price is $125


    Attached is the pad profile and part numbers – the main number in the USA is D1116 and it is also available for various other retailers if you require:

    • NAPA part number: UP8222M
    • O Reilly Auto Parts: D1116 (UPC # 841385160312)
    • Amazon: HB616F.607 or HB616Z.607
    • Tire Rack: HB616F.607 or HB616Z.607

    It is a much larger pad than the original Tacoma pad so the pad life / milage is also extensively longer.


    www.powerbrakeglobal.com

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  11. Apr 15, 2021 at 2:33 PM
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    Yeah, sorry about the our versus your switch up. Voice to text with minimal editing can be embarrassing sometimes. If your truck doesn’t have it already, you might want to consider getting a Helwig antisway bar for the rear really helps in high speed stability. But mine still sways during emergency maneuvers

    Regarding your brakes, definitely sounds inferior to our trucks I would get it checked out by someone specializing. It could be as simple as your brake fluid is old or low, or maybe your pads are worn. I’ve heard good things about the Toyota TRD front brake pads.
     
  12. Apr 15, 2021 at 3:12 PM
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    Thanks. Good to know yours is better than this.
    Probably obvious by now, but I got this rig used, completely built. And the guy had the master cylinder replaced and other brake work done about 5000 miles before I received it.. Have the toyota invoice showing the work. So I've assumed it's OK. But I will check it all out.
     
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    Ryan, Ryan, Ryan. It’s too late. Next week I am installing stop tech rotors and TRD pads that I ordered three months ago. Thanks anyways.

    But seriously thank you for the suggestion on the Archive hangers. Yesterday at the shop it was pointed out that one of the OEM hangers was bent and rubbing on the frame so we’re installing the archive hangers as per your suggestion

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    Awesome. You won't regret it!
     
  15. Apr 15, 2021 at 6:31 PM
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    Ryan, you should go for the rear disc mod so that I can pick your brain. You should do it quick while I hang out in half moon bay next week
     
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    Right on! Which kit should I get? :rofl:

    https://www.lceperformance.com/2005-2019-Tacoma-6-Lug-Rear-Disc-Conversion-Kit-p/1055210.htm
    https://sosperformance.com/products...-with-parking-brake-slash-tr-dot-ps2-dot-ta16
    https://www.silverminemotors.com/to...e-upgrade-swap-kit-backing-plate-with-e-brake


    Ewww... Not sure I like this part:
    Note: This kit includes parking brake option. However the OEM drum parking brake is superior to the the rear disc conversion parking brake for 2 reasons. 1) the oem parking brake shoes are larger & have approximately 50% more friction surface. Also the OEM drum diameter is larger in diameter as compared to the drum inside the rotor.
     
  17. Apr 15, 2021 at 7:21 PM
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    I want to do this but I'm mechanically not experienced enough to figure it out without someone holding my hand.
     
  18. Apr 15, 2021 at 7:38 PM
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    Oh totally, me as well. I’m not even going to install the front SS brake lines and rotors, my wife would worry too much
     
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  19. Apr 15, 2021 at 11:58 PM
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    Because an OR or Pro model has an electronically boosted brake booster. If swapping to rear discs, they require substantial more fluid, which the OEM booster and MC may not be able to provide. So the fix is to swap to a larger MC with greater volume, SOS Performance sells MC kits. But if you have an ATRAC truck (aka OR/Pro) the MC upgrade isn't available.
     
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    Super valuable information, thank you!!!!
     
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