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Close to pulling the trigger

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by RysTac12, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. Jan 14, 2012 at 7:38 PM
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    RysTac12

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    First post, hope it's in the right area.

    I am really close to finalizing the deal to have this truck built. Has anyone had close to the same and either regretted an option or wish they had gotten something slightly different? Let be honest, at $38k it's not exactly cheap nor is it something I'm looking to do again anytime soon. This is a first Toyota for me and just couldn't find it in me to buy the dying truck (GMC Canyon). Thoughts, thanks...

    Build:
    2012 Toyota Tacoma Model
    7594 DOUBLE CAB 4X4 (Short Bed)
    Exterior Color - 01G3 MAGNETIC GRAY MET.
    Interior Color - FL13 GRPHT/DRK CHARCL/BLK GRPH


    Standard Features for this model
    Additional Information & Notes MECHANICAL & PERFORMANCE
    - 4.0L DOHC 24V V6 VVT-i 236HP Engine
    - 5-Speed ECT-i Automatic Transmission
    - 4WDemand: Part-Time 4x4 Sys w/ 2-speed
    - Electronically Controlled Transfer Case
    - Automatic Limited-Slip Differential
    - Coil-Spring Double Wishbone Front Susp
    - Rear Leaf Spring Susp with Staggered
    - Outboard-Mounted Gas Shock Absorbers
    - Var-Assist Power Rack-&-Pinion Steering
    - Power-Assisted Fr Disc/Rr Drum Brakes
    - 16" Styld Steel Wheels, P245/75R16 Tires

    SAFETY & CONVENIENCE
    - Star Safety System
    - Includes Vehicle
    - Stability Control, Traction Control,
    - Anti-lock Brake System (ABS), Electronic
    - Brake Force Distribution, Brake Assist,
    - & Smart Stop Technology (SST)
    - Dr & Fr Pass Advanced Airbag System
    - Seat-Mounted Side & Side Curtain Airbags
    - 3-Point Seatbelts for All Seating
    - Positions; Driver-Side ELR & ALR/ELR on
    - All Pass Sts, Dr & Fr Pass Active Hdrest
    - Side-Impact Door Beams
    - Tire Pressure Monitor System (TPMS) EXTERIOR
    - Black Grille Insert/Surround, Blk Door
    - Handles, Mirrors, Front/Rear Bumpers
    - SMC Inner Bed w/Steel Outer Panels,
    - Storage, Rail Caps & Removable Tailgate
    - Deck Rail System w/4 Adj Tie-Down Cleats INTERIOR
    - Air Conditioning
    - Power Windows / Door Locks / Mirrors
    - Cloth Bucket Fr Seats w/ Pass Fold-Flat
    - Driver Seat w/ Adj Lumbar Support
    - 60/40 Split Rr Bench Seat w/ Adj Hdrests
    - AM/FM CD w/ MP3/WMA Playback,6 Spkrs, BT
    - Aux Jack, USB, & Str Whl w/ Audio Ctrls
    - Tilt/Telescoping Steering Wheel
    - 2-Speed Windshield Wipers
    - Dual 12V Aux Power Outlets (1+Cigarette)

    Selected Options and Packages
    Code Description
    EJ Display Audio with Navigation, EntuneTM
    - and JBL: Includes 6.1-in. Touch Screen
    - Linked to Back Up Camera, AM/FM CD Player
    - with MP3/WMA Playback Capability, 7 JBL
    - Speakers Including Subwoofer, SiriusXM
    - Satellite Radio Capability (Includes - 3-month Trial Subscription), HD RadioTM
    - with iTunes Tagging, Auxiliary Audio Jack,
    - USB port with iPod Connectivity and Control, Hands-free Phone Capability,
    - Phonebook Access, Voice Recognition, and - Music Streaming via Bluetooth Wireless - Technology.
    FE 50 State Emissions
    PY TRD Sport Package:
    - Sport Suspension with Bilstein Shocks,
    - 17" Alloy Wheels with P265/65R17 Tires, Hood
    - Scoop, Color-Keyed Grille
    - Surround/Bumpers/Door Handles/Overfenders,
    - Color-Keyed Outside Mirrors w/ Turn Signal
    - Indicators, Sliding Rear Window w/ Privacy
    - Glass, 115V/400W Deck Mounted AC Power,
    - Fog Lamps, Remote Keyless Entry, Cruise
    - Cntl, Variable Intermittent Windshield
    - Wipers, Overhead Console with Maplamps and
    - Sunglasses Storage, Sport Water-Resistant
    - Seats with Driver Lumbar Support - (Passenger Side Fold Flat Feature Delete),
    - Metallic-Tone Instrument Panel Trim,
    - Leather-Trimmed Steering Wheel with Audio
    - Controls & Shifter (A/T Models Only), Dual RL Daytime Running Lights (DRL) TO V6 Tow Package:
    - Class-IV Towing Receiver Hitch,
    - Transmission & Supplemental Oil Coolers,
    - 130A Alternator, Heavy Duty Battery, 7-Pin - Connector w/Converter, Trailer Sway
    - Control WT 3M Window Tint - (Compliant with the laws of LA, TX, AR, OK & MS)
    CF Premium Carpet Mat Set - w / Door Sill Protectors
    R4 Predator Tube Steps F1 VIP Sales Follow-Up I2 PDS -with Texas State Inspection G1 Vehicle Fueling (4 Gal.)

    DEALER INSTALLED OPTIONS
    - Leather Seats
    - Predator running boards (R4 listed above)
    - Roof Rack
    - Bed Extender

    Options not listed but going to get added
    - Truck Bed D-Rings
    - Front Skid Plate
    - Blue Logic Hands free system
    - Bike Fork Lock
    - Plastic Hood Protector (Smoke)
    - Cargo Divider
    - TRD Performance Exhaust
    - TRD Cold Air Intake


    Quote for all but the last options is $38k not including TTL and all that.
     
  2. Jan 15, 2012 at 12:42 AM
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    rdm197aps

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    you could save money by getting rid of the "performance" exhaust, its a cat back system that any muffler shop can do. had mine dueled out with chrome tips for @$300. Sounds OK for a V6, but ive never had a V6 that sounded like a V8. oh, the shop put on a flowmaster clone to save money. i do think it sounds and looks better than the TRD unit.

    my truck is the same as yours, except i dont have the navigation, or the bluetooth stuff, the roof rack, bed extender, or the leather seats and i paid @ 31K. i added outlander bull bar and steps. wired off road lights to the high beams so they come on automatically.

    thought about a GMC or Chevrolet, but figured i would try the Tacoma. Its the best truck i've ever had. (previously had a 1996 S10, 92 dodge diesel, 97Dodge Diesel) you will not regret it.
     
  3. Jan 15, 2012 at 12:59 AM
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    RysTac12,

    For that kind of money, I would make sure that you get exactly the brand and grade of tires that you want. I have no idea what tire Toyota would put on, but insist on a premium tire. Nothing less than if you were buying new premium grade replacement tires. Myself, I would choose Michelin tires.
     
  4. Jan 15, 2012 at 4:01 AM
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    RysTac12

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    I didn't know I could request a specific brand of tire, but if I could choose I'd probably go with trusted BF Good's A/T's. I used to have a couple lifted trucks back in the day and I put those through hell and they always pulled through.

    The only reason I was adding all the options was because I figured that TRD was a good option and would be covered under the vehicle warranty so I'd likely not have ay issues. Just looking for a minor bump in performance, but mainly for a better than stock sound. The truck I was building started out cheap enough but once I started tacking on the options it shot right up. I'm not sure how great a deal I'm getting, but the internet salesman says I'm getting a lot of it at cost. Kind of bummed options like leather seats are a dealer installed option, but that's the way it goes.

    If anyone has purchased a similar truck with the options I'd be curious to compare prices. I was told that Tacoma's don't have a huge mark up so it's hard to get any kind of huge incentives. I'm taking a huge loss getting this over the GMC equivalent, mainly because I get so many rebates. I go back and forth but deep down I know the tacoma is a better truck, but without a V8 and $8k more than the Canyon it's hard to swallow.

    I joined the forum because I'm going to make it final in the next day or so and have them order it, so I guess I was looking for any last minute thoughts by true tacoma followers.

    So any last minute words of advice or do's and don'ts I'd appreciate it. I'm purchasing this over the internet from a dealer in Texas, but may switch it to MI pending on the quote I get from them.

    So, tell me I'm not crazy for passing on the GMC and tell me that the truck build is worth the $$ and set my mind at ease... lol.

    GMC Canyon Pro's:
    V8, GM employee discount, $750 military rebate, USAA (Bank rebate) $3300 off, $1000 off for loan option (not all stack, but man options)...

    Toyota: USAA discount $3000 off, dealer cut cost of Leather seats by $500.. but other than that I think it's a straight shot

    GMC Loaded V8, other specs comparable to Tacoma = $30k
    Toyota: Loaded (options listed) = $38k

    Thoughts?
     
  5. Jan 15, 2012 at 5:23 AM
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    Still trying to decide...
    Check out the what did you pay thread... $38k seems a little high,

    Mine 2012 dcsb v6 trd sport PY package and tow... $31k... $7k seems like a lot for those option, but I could be wrong.
     
  6. Jan 15, 2012 at 5:26 AM
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  7. Jan 15, 2012 at 5:29 AM
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    welcome to TW Ry. 38 grr is alot of cash for a Tacoma.
     
  8. Jan 15, 2012 at 5:35 AM
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  9. Jan 15, 2012 at 6:09 AM
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    I bought 2012 Tacoma TRD Sport Long Bed ...With PY TRD Sport Package:
    - Sport Suspension with Bilstein Shocks,
    - 17" Alloy Wheels with P265/65R17 Tires, Hood
    - Scoop, Color-Keyed Grille
    - Surround/Bumpers/Door Handles/Overfenders,
    - Color-Keyed Outside Mirrors w/ Turn Signal
    - Indicators, Sliding Rear Window w/ Privacy
    - Glass, 115V/400W Deck Mounted AC Power,
    - Fog Lamps, Remote Keyless Entry, Cruise
    - Cntl, Variable Intermittent Windshield
    - Wipers, Overhead Console with Maplamps and
    - Sunglasses Storage, Sport Water-Resistant
    - Seats with Driver Lumbar Support - (Passenger Side Fold Flat Feature Delete),
    - Metallic-Tone Instrument Panel Trim,
    - Leather-Trimmed Steering Wheel with Audio
    - Controls & Shifter (A/T Models Only), Dual RL Daytime Running Lights (DRL) TO V6 Tow Package:
    - Class-IV Towing Receiver Hitch,
    - Transmission & Supplemental Oil Coolers,
    - 130A Alternator, Heavy Duty Battery, 7-Pin - Connector w/Converter, Trailer Sway
    also bluetooth hands free .... Floot mats

    sticker $32805
    no trade in .....Paid$ 30300

    bought in Madison Wis,
     
  10. Jan 15, 2012 at 6:09 AM
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    There are several sites you can get the invoice price of the truck you are looking at, including all the extras. Dealers make at least 20% of all factory add ons, packgages, etc. and more on dealer installed items. I would go online and get the cost of the truck and offer them 300-500 over invoice, period, no dealer costs, etc. Just the TTL and thats it.

    ITS A BUYERS MARKET! EVEN WITH TOYOTAS!!
    38K is the salesman's dream number. You will pay his rent with this sale alone. :eek:
     
  11. Jan 15, 2012 at 6:10 AM
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    You're the first person I've ever heard say you were considering a canyon but also looking at a Toyota. Actually, you're the first person I've ever heard say you were interested in a canyon. Ever wonder why GM products have nice rebates and Toyota doesn't? Here's a hint:Toyota doesn't need a rebate to sell its cars. Half the crap you listed is way overpriced and I woundnt buy period but thats just me. I've blown money on stupid shit before but $38k for a midsize truck is freakin insane.
     
  12. Jan 15, 2012 at 7:24 AM
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    Man, I had to read all the way to the bottom, to find that your 38k number does not include all the add ons you're thinking of.

    It looks like you're going to pay more than you need to here. Edmunds.com, and a couple other sites can help you see what a fair price is for the truck you want, configured the way you want it.

    But once you're giving the dealer 500 over invoice, you're paying plenty. No need to go higher, and many savvy buyers negotiate lower than that.
     
  13. Jan 15, 2012 at 7:38 AM
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    You should be at around 31-32K without the dealer installed options. Bed extender ~300, Exhaust ~400 boards and rack maybe 400 each? Leather perhaps around 1500.

    As to other trucks, 38K would get you a certified tundra limited with leather. I thought about looking at some other trucks but the Tundra was too big for where I need to take it. I did (and still do) have some buyers remorse for getting a Tacoma over a Tundra/F150 but when I think about the few times I need to go into DC or other metros and just the fact that the Tacomas can take a pounding and still run, I know I made the right choice.
     
  14. Jan 15, 2012 at 7:43 AM
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    I wouldn't go with a GM truck if it was free. Never heard anything good about them.
     
  15. Jan 15, 2012 at 7:46 AM
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    I've been able to get the GM emplyee discount for over 30 yrs and never did. Won't buy a gm or chrysler,ever.
     
  16. Jan 15, 2012 at 8:04 AM
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    First of all, congrats on the Taco...Now for the rest....DO NOT GET THE OEM HOOD DEFLECTER!!! It will scratch up your paint. Next I would recommend getting an Off RD vs the Sport because of the locker and ATRAC. if you plan on driving off rd, the sport out of the box, is no where near as good as the off rd because of this IMHO.
     
  17. Jan 15, 2012 at 8:24 AM
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    without the dealer installed options, this is a $33k truck list price. so the way i see it, you are paying list price PLUS $5k for these options.

    - Leather Seats
    - Predator running boards (R4 listed above)
    - Roof Rack
    - Bed Extender

    The above items are worth around $2850-$3K. You should be in the $35K-$36K LIST price, before negotiations start.

    The problem with "dealer installed" options like leather is, they can charge you pretty much anything you want. Leather should be around $1500, but I bet if you ask them they are going to quote you in the $2500 range.

    i think you are getting a really bad deal, to be honest. I would shop this around alot more, or consider going at least to a custom upholstery shop and ordering katzkin leather seats instead (you can even order them on this site, if you want).
     
  18. Jan 15, 2012 at 8:26 AM
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    I just bought the same truck but off road and no navigation or leather. Costco program $400 over invoice and they ordered exactly what I wanted. $30,200. You can get a way better deal than what they quoted you.
     
  19. Jan 15, 2012 at 8:36 AM
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    I think you may be able to get a better deal than 38,000 but on that note good luck with the new truck purchase..
     
  20. Jan 15, 2012 at 9:16 AM
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    OK i so couldn't help but chime in here. Granted mine isn't the "new" body style it was up to date when I bought it. 11 DC OR with everything they offered minus the JBL and navigation wasn't an option for 28k last February. Also added leather and laughed when they said 1500 for the add on. So after 5 minutes of calling them stupid they acted like I was killing them but paid 600 for the leather. So my opinion is go in person say they are crazy and work on the price and leave most add ons alone you can find them cheaper here an on the net.
     
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