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Oil filter?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Gasturbine, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Jun 19, 2015 at 8:51 AM
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    Gasturbine

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    Im going to be doing my own oil changes on my 2011 2.7l, and shopping around for filters, I spoke to a tech from Toyota Direct. He said with absolute certainty, I must use the Toyota factory OEM 90915-YZZD1 oil filter. He says there is some sort of check valve built into the filter, that most aftermarkets do not have.

    Hes an older guy with decades of Toyota experience...very knowledgeable and professional, and he wasnt trying to sell me one either, but was very adamant about it.

    Anybody have any first hand knowledge about this?

    Oh, and I plan on using Amsoil 0w-20 full synthetic...how long should my interval be?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jun 19, 2015 at 8:54 AM
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    Stick with toyota OEM. Ebay has a pack of 10 for $45 with free shipping.

    Tell the old man to chill, most if not all filters have antidrainback valves though and you dont have to use toyota if you dont want to.
     
  3. Jun 19, 2015 at 8:55 AM
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    Not sure that you MUST use one but at my local Toyota dealership I can walk in, ask for a filter and $4.04 later walk out with an OEM filter that is, at minimum, just as good than the aftermarket offerings that are usually more expensive so the real question is: Why wouldn't I?
     
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    I go to one of the local Toyota dealership and just pick up a few each time and I have only been using Toyota's oil filter on my Tacoma.
     
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    A Toyota tech mentioned to me that if you are under warranty and have an issue with your engine, if there is an OEM filter on it they wouldn't question it. If there is an aftermarket filter on the truck, you may run into some grief depending on the issue.
     
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    I think the old man was referring to the bypass valve. Different engines require different bypass valve rates. If a filter is used that has the wrong bypass rate, the filter could go into bypass mode too early (allowing unfiltered oil to circulate into the engine), or go into bypass mode too late (building excess pressure inside the filter canister and potentially starving engine components of oil). Aftermarket filters that are cross-referenced for your engine will have the correct (or very close) bypass valve rate. Even the cheapest economy filters will have a close enough bypass rate, although in those products I would be skeptical of the reliability/design of the bypass valve to even work at all in the first place.

    So in answer to your question, I wouldn't insist on using a Toyota filter. Most name brand filters are good products (Purolator, Wix, NAPA, etc). Everyone has their opinion on some brands being better than others and I won't get into that. Although I do agree that the Toyota filter is high quality and low price, so it's an obvious choice.

    You can find different sizes of oil filter that will physically fit onto your 2011 2.7. Many people even seek out oversize oil filters (that are not spec'd for their engine) to increase the amount of filter media and to increase the oil capacity. There's nothing wrong with this, so long as the oversize filter has the correct bypass rate for their engine.

    99% of oil filters nowadays have anti-drainback valves. Anything without an ADBV is either a specialty filter or is so cheaply made that it really shouldn't be used.
     
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    I would use dealer filters at least through the warranty period. After that, NAPA Gold or Wix are fine - just my opinion. I put 415,000 miles on a 22-RE engine using every filter known to man. Got over 300,000 miles on 2 other Asian vehicles doing the same.

    Engine parts clearance is more crucial these days, so it's hard to argue with using OEM. As stated above - lots of ebay sellers offering OEM filters delivered for about what a Walmart entry-level Fram sells for.
     
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    There will be zero grief, because they can't, and if they do give you grief, you will win. It's against the law to require your own brand unless you supply it free of charge.

    K&N does a good job of describing that here: http://www.knfilters.com/warrantyletter.htm

    And you can see similar info here under "Tie-in sales": http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides/ftc/warranties/undermag.htm
     
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    Keep this simple...OEM all the way. One of the best and one of the least expensive.
     
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    OEM... That is all.
     
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    Your safest bet is Original Toyota filter because. I would just get those and be done with it.
     
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