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OME 887 vs 888 Input Requested

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by IrishRed, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. Apr 2, 2020 at 5:21 PM
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    IrishRed

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    Howdy, folks. I’ve read through numerous threads and I have a few more questions before I pull the trigger & order my lift.

    I thought I was definitely going with 887s, but I’m now considering the 888s. Headstrong states they provide 1/2” more lift than the 887s, but does that extra 1/2” come at a cost of potential issues like a stiffer ride, less travel, & extra needed parts? If not, I may as well go a bit bigger, right?

    I’m tempted to go with the 888s, but I’m still reluctant because I’m not planning on running any additional frontend weight and I want to avoid a harsh ride. I’ve also seen reports of guys getting more lift height than the 2.5” Headstrong advertises. I don’t want to significantly go over 2.5” of lift.

    I’m not sure if this helps you provide any advice, but I’m planning on running 265-75-16 Falken Wildpeaks on my 16” SCS Ray 10s and want to keep my factory mudguards. Thanks.
     
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  2. Apr 2, 2020 at 5:32 PM
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    heybronicetacoma

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    Can't speak to the 887, but i have the 888 with 5100s and it is a bit stiff, not gonna lie. 265/75/16 KM3 LTs.

    I do plan to put weight up front though..
     
  3. Apr 2, 2020 at 5:53 PM
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    What are you planning on doing to the rear?
     
  4. Apr 2, 2020 at 5:55 PM
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    HS 3 Leaf AAL
     
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    I had 887s for a while. I got just over 2” with them. I also have no added weight except for some side steps. I felt like they rode ok. Not very stiff.
     
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  7. Apr 2, 2020 at 9:39 PM
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    I have the 887's with the 5100's set at zero. For the price I would do it again for sure.

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  8. Apr 2, 2020 at 10:40 PM
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    Dr. Emmett Brown

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    590 spring rate is one of the softest you'll get so people who say OME coils are stiff are smoking some good dope that I would appreciate being offered. That being said my 888s sagged like every sexual inuendo known to man. I have spacers to get my ride height back to 2.5" up front. I would suggest staying away from OME coils. go with eibach or dobinsons.
     
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    Maybe Headstrong doesn't know everything. My friend is on his 2nd set of OME and they sagged too. Now he is back on the org. springs and his truck rides better to him. Also if you use another coil with the 5100s you loose the Bilstein lifetime warranty.
     
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  10. Apr 3, 2020 at 4:29 AM
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    Thank you, for this. I wish more posted pics had somebody standing beside their truck. Makes it easier to get a feel for how big the lift is. How long have you been running the 887’s? Have you experienced any of the excessive settling or sag that others keep mentioning? I spoke to Marie @HeadStrong Off-Road a few weeks ago about this & she indicated that the sagging issue was typically on trucks running additional weight up front. Maybe she’ll chime in on this. Like you guys, I don’t want to go to the trouble of lifting my truck only to have it significantly settle over time.
     
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    Thanks, for sharing. I had my heart set on OME, but I’m going to give a closer look to the Eibach setup. You’d definitely recommend it?

    Does Toytec sell this kit? I’d like to talk more to someone about it. Maybe the Eibach rep will see this and contact me. Are people liking the ride of this kit?
     
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    The rep is pretty active in this thread....

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/eibach-pro-lift-kit.545060/page-100#post-23069474

    Apparently the 2.0 coilovers are a week out. I know you can get the Eibach kit assembled at Wheelers Off Road.
     
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    to edit thread title, should be a "thread tools" link at the top right somewhere that will allow you to make edits to title. :thumbsup:
     
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    Thank you! Fixed it!
     
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    Is anyone using the 886 coils with no additional weight up front? I’m wondering if that would be too stiff. I mean the stock coil is rated @ 700 lbs and the 886 are @ 660 lbs. I’d think the 886 paired with the OME NitroCharger Softride might be a possible solution to the sagging issue. Any thoughts on that?
     
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    At this point I have no experience other than reviews of those other brand coils. All I know is my coils and lots of other folks have been having the same issues with the OME coils sagging not too long after install.

    I'm considering moving to adjustable 2.5 non resis coilovers at some point this year but we will see
     
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    Just for reference I did 5100’s set at 1.5” front 4th setting , rear I have 1.5” wheelers aal. Ride is great. 265/75/16 yokohama X-AT. No sagging on stock coils. Not sure if your dead set on 2” of lift up front. You could do Bilstein 6112? You will get 2”. Good luck with your build. Post pics when done
     
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    we also carry the Eibach kits. We haven't had the chance to add them to our site yet but we do have several varieties in stock at the moment as well :)
     
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    Specifically, as far as the OME coils go, they do wear in however some of it, I personally feel, is not really being portrayed properly. I have had a handful of clients say that they netted no lift from the 888's on a stock truck. When asked to supply photos I could tell that they did net a decent amount of lift. Some of it has been narrowed down to these few things:

    The client didn't realize that they had some sort of lift spacer installed from the factory/dealership. This means that their trucks were already lifted and thus this will influence the height they will see when switching suspension. This will be regardless of running an OME set up or any other one available.

    There were not proper before and after lift measurements taken or none at all. I have had people not take before measurement and then take only take measurements right after the lift is installed. As time progresses the suspension will settle in. This is natural and too be expected with pretty much all suspension lifts. When it settles in people feel as if the suspension sagged, which it did, however without proper before measurement they do not know how much lift they truly gained and therefore the after settled measurements could align with the average height specifications we provide. In many cases I have seen photos and can tell by the angle of the arms that many did achieve a good amount of lift height.

    I have people who hear that they are guaranteed clear a certain tire with a certain lift. If they do not clear then they feel as if there is something wrong with the lift. There is much more to wheel and tire fitment then just lift height. There are countless threads on here where some people have cleared and others rub. There are many factors at play (backspacing, overall tire diameter, footprint of wheel/tire combination, etc) so tire clearance should be taken with a grain of salt.

    Lastly the coils can be confusing in general. ARB says that the 888's will provide 2" with an ARB bumper which can weigh in around 145 lbs +/-. We have found that clients can see a decent amount of sagging with that amount of weight. Since that is the case we spec out the 888's on a stock weight truck and say that they will provide around 2.5" of lift +/-. Because of how ARB designates this coil some people think they will be better at supporting load and not really sag down. This isn't necessarily the case. The 888's are the same spring rate as the 887's but they are 5mm taller. It all boils down to mean that after the weight is added you will net more lift then if you were to go with its 887 counter part but the weight will still affect the lift achieved. How much is hard to say and can come down to how much weight is being added, where it is being added to and even the mfg tolerances of the springs themselves.

    I hope that this helps to clarify some of the "sagging" issue and not add to the confusion.
     
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