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Pelfreybilt ACH Customer Support Group

Discussion in 'Pelfreybilt Off-Road' started by Willbeck, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. Sep 10, 2018 at 9:03 PM
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  2. Sep 11, 2018 at 10:38 AM
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    Everyone burn your pelfrey products! That’s the thing to do.
     
  3. Sep 11, 2018 at 10:41 AM
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    Should I remove them from my truck first? Ah fuck it. Let me go make sure the go pro is charged. BRB
     
  4. Sep 11, 2018 at 10:46 AM
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    I think so, I believe people are removing the shoes before burning.
     
  5. Sep 11, 2018 at 10:51 AM
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    If I were you (in the same state as Pelfrey) I would go sign Criminal “Theft by Deception” complaints against all of the people you can name from the company. That should get some attention.
     
  6. Sep 11, 2018 at 12:08 PM
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    I also contacted Wells Fargo again today (following up from my initial claim last week) and when I spoke with them they stated that since it was ACH and I authorized the transaction for a sale of "goods that I never received" then most likely I will have to resolve it with the company.

    ...HOWEVER, they sent the claim to an investigator who will contact me if there's any questions.
    From there I'll be sure and tell them about the failed communication throughout our business.


    EDIT: I am also out like many of you --> $2,450 :rain:
     
  7. Sep 11, 2018 at 12:26 PM
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  8. Sep 11, 2018 at 12:47 PM
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    If you lost several thousand dollars I believe investigating taking a deduction on your income tax is worth the effort.

    Sources: IRS.gov and below

    https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/taxation/income-tax/deduction-for-non-business-bad-debts.html

    Nonbusiness Bad Debts - All other bad debts are nonbusiness. Nonbusiness bad debts must be totally worthless to be deductible. You can't deduct a partially worthless nonbusiness bad debt.

    A debt becomes worthless when the surrounding facts and circumstances indicate there's no reasonable expectation that the debt will be repaid. To show that a debt is worthless, you must establish that you've taken reasonable steps to collect the debt. It's not necessary to go to court if you can show that a judgment from the court would be uncollectible. You may take the deduction only in the year the debt becomes worthless. You don't have to wait until a debt is due to determine that it's worthless.

    Report a nonbusiness bad debt as a short-term capital loss on Form 8949.pdf, Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets, Part 1, line 1. Enter the name of the debtor and "bad debt statement attached" in column (a). Enter your basis in the bad debt in column (e) and enter zero in column (d). Use a separate line for each bad debt. It's subject to the capital loss limitations. A nonbusiness bad debt deduction requires a separate detailed statement attached to your return. The statement must contain: a description of the debt, including the amount and the date it became due; the name of the debtor, and any business or family relationship between you and the debtor; the efforts you made to collect the debt; and why you decided the debt was worthless.

    Basis in the Debt
    To deduct a bad debt, you must have a basis in it—that is, you must have already included the amount in your income or loaned out your cash. Thus, for example, you cannot claim a bad debt deduction for unpaid alimony owed by your former spouse. If you are a cash method taxpayer (as almost all individuals are), you cannot take a bad debt deduction for unpaid salaries, wages, rents, fees, interest, or dividends. This is true even though they are owed to you. On the other hand, you can take a bad debt deduction for the amount you deposit with a contractor if the contractor goes broke and you are unable to recover your deposit. If the deposit is for work unrelated to your trade or business, it is a nonbusiness bad debt deduction.
     
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  9. Sep 11, 2018 at 12:50 PM
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    Tip for the future , dont buy or do any business with someone named Satin, it never turns out well.
     
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  10. Sep 11, 2018 at 1:03 PM
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    Can't say enough how f*cking true this is.
    Please note how Satin is now on her 3rd name in less than 8 years...
    Something to definitely be aware of when doing business with other fab companies in the coming years and someone's name is "Satin".

    I just received this in the mail today.
    I blurred out their social security numbers and home address for obvious reasons.

     
  11. Sep 11, 2018 at 1:36 PM
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    Along with the Wells Fargo disputes that are open, I looked at my Paypal invoice for the rear bumper ($2,099) dated May 21, 2018. In fine print at the bottom, the invoice allows you to open a dispute on the charge up to 180 days from the transaction date. It gas been 113 days so I called Paypal.

    They stated that regardless of how Pelfreybilt has filed bankruptcy, that they give them 10 business days to respond to their request, and on that 11th day if they have not answered then I will be credited the full amount into my Paypal account.

    Lets sure hope that this is how it works because I made sure to voice my concerns and doubt regarding the money coming back to me and they sounded confident that I would get the money credited back...
     
  12. Sep 11, 2018 at 1:38 PM
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    Paypal has always been good to me with getting my money back when they said they would. Actually I have never not been refunded when I open a case.
     
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  13. Sep 11, 2018 at 1:40 PM
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    That's reassuring, now I wish I would've had Pelfreybilt send me a Paypal invoice for the skids I added on August 27th..... oh well, I'll chalk it up as a big WIN if I can get $2,100 of the $2,425 total refunded back to me *deep sigh*
     
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  14. Sep 13, 2018 at 2:31 PM
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    Did you pay with PayPal? A payment invoice will be on your PayPal account history online...
     
  15. Sep 13, 2018 at 5:29 PM
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    No not for the skids. They it was a direct pull from my bank account
     
  16. Sep 13, 2018 at 5:55 PM
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    Sorry about that. I really feel for you guys, I almost bought skids from them too back on December, and was going to get armor later on from them also, but luckily they never sent me a reply to my emails inquiring about driving there to pickup items so I decided to look elsewhere and found a couple of great TW vendor builders. I came so close to blowing it on this company. I hope everyone here gets some sort of refund. I see civil small claims lawsuits comming if the judge denies the BK due to “issues” with the filing.
     
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  17. Sep 14, 2018 at 10:15 AM
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    Plaintiff lawyers are contingency based.

    Pretty sure the costs of filing in small claims exceed $1,000 which is all he’s entitled to.
    There are no non-economic damages in bankruptcy cases.

    You cannot get blood from a turnip.
    You can’t sue people for money they don’t have.
    That’s what makes this so tragic. Victims don’t have much of a recourse.

    It would be great if we could do a go fund me type of thing here.
    I’m proud of the vendors that are offering serious discounts for those effected.
     
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  18. Sep 14, 2018 at 11:08 AM
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    Like I said his only option was to hire a lawyer and sue the corporation (Pelfreybilt), I never said it would be cost effective though.
     
  19. Sep 14, 2018 at 12:08 PM
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    Its not an option.
     
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  20. Sep 14, 2018 at 12:22 PM
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    Are you a lawyer in California? That would really help everyone out to have some expertise if you are. Otherwise it’s just another random person not knowing what they are talking about.
     

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