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Spidertrax vs. Allpro spacers....

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by sincitytaco, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. Dec 15, 2009 at 4:47 PM
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    sincitytaco

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    What is the major difference. I know spidertrax are know for being great, but I mean forged aluminum is forged aluminum. And they both are hub centric with grade 8 hardware.
    The allpros are however half the price.

    Chris4x4 what do you think?
     
  2. Dec 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM
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    Jigzor

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    There was a member not long ago that bought the all pro. Turned out the spacer broke while driving. Fortunately for him he wasn't going highway speeds.
     
  3. Dec 15, 2009 at 4:49 PM
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    MyToyTaco

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    I have spidertrax on mine, I've beat the hell out of them and havent had any issues.
     
  4. Dec 15, 2009 at 4:51 PM
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    Incognito

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    I vote Spidertrax... And I'm sure most everybody else would also...
     
  5. Dec 15, 2009 at 4:53 PM
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    I had the Allpro ones. They were plenty beefie, but I couldn't get them properly mounted without a shimmie at 60mph or more. I think it was just me though, not the spacers fault.
     
  6. Dec 15, 2009 at 4:54 PM
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    Spidertrax are definately proven, but what is difference between the spidertrax and the allpros. I mean what can break with a spacer, only the studs right? Well the stud should all be the same since they are all grade 8.
     
  7. Dec 15, 2009 at 4:55 PM
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    Well if they shimmied with the spacers, but no shimmy without then that is definately shitty.
     
  8. Dec 15, 2009 at 5:28 PM
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    Some one PMd me this information below. I tend to agree with his findings, but would certainly like a reply from someone in the know instead of someone speculating.


    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/buy...ml#post1218890

    thought I would share some of my information with you.

    you are so adamant that the All Pro Spacers are shit and you base all of your "information" off of one incident. I have been considering running spacers on my truck in the future so I have been doing a decent amount of research, this is what i have found out:

    the incident that you base all of your information involved a larger spacer (2" IIRC) and a lot of user error. the guy installed lug centric spacers with hub centric wheels and then forgot to torque them, it is also the only publicly documented failure of the all pro spacers i could find. however the problem is not exclusive to All Pro Spacers, If you would search TW you would find this thread:
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/whe...l-spacers.html

    If you were to search google you would find this as your first search result:
    http://www.jk-forum.mobi/showthread.php?t=107753

    the facts

    the difference between the All Pro 1.25" hub centric spacer and the late model toyota Spidertrax is the classification of the studs. all pro uses a standard Grade 8 pressed into the spacer, the spidertrax use a M12 metric bolt also pre installed (pressed i would assume)

    The Grade 8 bolt has a min tensile strength of 150,000 PSI which is more than enough for a 4200 lb vehicle. The M12 is around the 175,000 PSI range based off of conversion charts and calculations.

    Both use a solid machined piece of Billet 6061-T6 aluminum as the base.

    Just a little additional information so you can post more accurate information as opposed to gossip :)

    For reference:
    All Pro
    http://www.allprooffroad.com/tech-in...ers/toyspacers

    Spidertrax
    http://www.spidertrax.com/Toyota-Hub-Centric-Spacer

    Bolt Classifications
    http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-in...ade-Chart.aspx
     
  9. Dec 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM
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    actually if you read one of the links above that I posted you will see a post where the spidertrax have failed, again probably due to installation error though.
     
  10. Dec 15, 2009 at 5:48 PM
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    I felt comfortable enough to buy my Spidertrax used. I'm the third owner of mine, and the two previous owners wheeled them pretty hard. Reputation is all you have to go on when things are made identically.
     
  11. Dec 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM
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    very true
     
  12. Dec 15, 2009 at 5:58 PM
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    What is the tensile strength on the OEM studs?
     
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    O.k. I was looking at the pics of the blue tacoma on the bottom. It says running 285/70/17 plus Spidertrax spacers. Now, I am running 1.25" spacers plus I just went to 285's and my tires are NOT even close to being that wide. What is the difference? I am using the factory wheels though. Help!! Pics to follow as soon as this damn computer cooperates.
     
  15. Dec 15, 2009 at 8:08 PM
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    That factory stud are 12Mx1.5 so they are identical to the ones spidertrax uses. I would like to buy some of the ASAP, where can i get the best price on Spidertrax and who has them in stock?
     
  16. Dec 15, 2009 at 10:29 PM
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    I searched for them a couple weeks ago and nobody had them in SoCal. So I called them directly (spidertrax that is) they are based in Colorado. The guy that picked up was very nice. He said that I could buy them directly from him and that he's ship them to my house. He said that he would do them for what ever price is listed on their website plus shipping.

    I would have done it except I needed them the next day, I ended up finding a guy that could build them for me the next day. I drove out to his shop and picked them up the next day. I ended up paying more for them than the Spidertrax cost...damn I am inpatient mofo...


    Order from them directly and pay the shipping...just my $.02
     
  17. Dec 15, 2009 at 10:42 PM
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    Damn They are working on about a 10000% markup and they won't pay shipping, ouch.
     
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    wat?

    oh, and i got that same PM on TTORA as well....there's a reason that AP banboy....i mean fanboy has been booted a few different places:eek:
     
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    i have 1.25 spidertrax on mine. easy install, and no problems or anything yet
     
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    I heard the ones on ebay are crap...there was 1 case of a guy that was out wheelin and his fuckin wheel
    broke off :eek:
     
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