1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Wearing Tacoma out by towing?

Discussion in 'Towing' started by beeser, Jul 29, 2008.

  1. Jul 29, 2008 at 9:26 AM
    #1
    beeser

    beeser [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Member:
    #8183
    Messages:
    30
    I raised this question before on a travel trailer forum but since finding TacomaWorld it may be a more appropriate question here. I have a 3700 lb. (loaded) travel trailer that I tow with my 2004 Tacoma (V6) XCab Prerunner TRD. A neighbor suggested that my Tacoma would prematurely wear out because of towing such a heavy trailer. It's well within the towing capacity of 5000 lbs. It seems to do the job OK except on some substantial inclines where it slows down a lot. Should I be concerned and start looking for a larger tow vehicle or continue using the Tacoma?

    Thanks to all that answered my previous question.
     
  2. Jul 29, 2008 at 9:29 AM
    #2
    eordonez

    eordonez Living vicariously through mjp2

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2008
    Member:
    #5340
    Messages:
    8,363
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ed
    Chihuahua, Mexico
    Vehicle:
    TRD Sport Dcab 4x2 Black Sand Pearl
    OEM All Weather Mats, wheel locks, Toyota Silver Tube steps.....
  3. Jul 29, 2008 at 9:31 AM
    #3
    lsocoee

    lsocoee My hair is all natural Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Member:
    #872
    Messages:
    10,116
    First Name:
    Hotdog
    Vehicle:
    2007 PreRunner SR5 Double Cab
    Wet Okole Underwear
    How often are you towing it?

    I think that driving any vehicle fully loaded puts more stress on the vehicle. I don't see the point in upgrading though.

    I bet most of your problems will come from your transmission heating up.
     
  4. Jul 29, 2008 at 9:55 AM
    #4
    tacomaman06

    tacomaman06 Carolina Alliance: Lead, follow, or get the hell o Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2007
    Member:
    #1475
    Messages:
    26,305
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Will
    York,South Carolina
    Vehicle:
    '13 Silverado ext cab
    if you havent installed an auxiliary transmission cooler, i would do so. it'll keep the transmission alot cooler and that would be very ideal to have to continue to keep towing really.
     
  5. Jul 29, 2008 at 12:22 PM
    #5
    Janster

    Janster Old & Forgetful

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Member:
    #1138
    Messages:
    13,815
    Gender:
    Female
    First Name:
    Jandy
    Lancaster, PA
    Vehicle:
    2007 4.0L 4x4 TRD Sport Access Cab A
    Advantage Torza top (tri-fold), Husky floor mats, RuffTuff seat covers, C2C hood struts, Homelink mirror, USA Spec PA15-Toy (120gig Classic & 8gig nano), Garmin Nuvi 660, Protecta Bed mat, Pop-n-lock, TSB Springs, Scangauge II, Heated drivers seat, Fumoto drain valve, Aries pushbar, PIAA 540 fog lights, Hood scoop grahics, Flowmaster 50 series dual catback exhaust, RainX Latitude windshield wipers, Husky rear floor liner (ontop of folded down seats). Console Vault.
    Do you have a manual or automatic?

    How often do you to?

    Definately look into installing a tranny oil cooler for the Auto tranny (if you have one). ANd perhaps some synthetic lubricants in the tranny.

    If you have a manual.... Again, synthetic lubricants in there. I can't say much for the tranny itself, but I would think the wear and tear will be mostly on the clutch - pending on how you shift and how much you slip the clutch.

    As long as your under the recommended towing capacity, you should be OK. Just keep an eye on things - as they'll need more TLC and maintenance more often.
     
  6. Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM
    #6
    beeser

    beeser [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Member:
    #8183
    Messages:
    30
    Thanks for all of the suggestions. They were all helpful, especially the link to towing with a Tacoma. Based on everything I read I'll probably continue using the Tacoma, at least for a while, and not make any modifications. I only use the travel trailer once every couple of months at most and if I understand correctly adding a supplemental oil or transmission cooler isn't absolutely necessary. While the dealer installed the towing fan clutch (green - I stated that it was orange before.) they too didn't seem concerned about what I was towing. They did however change my transmission fluid to something that withstood heat better. Other than that I have a Class IV hitch (Toyota hitch and wiring) with an upgraded fan clutch, better transmission fluid and a Tekonsha P3 brake controller. Everything else is the way it came originally from the dealer. Oh, and yes I only tow in 3rd gear (no overdrive).

    I have one more related question though. It appears that the transmission fluid is run through the radiator for cooling. How effective is this compared to the supplemental type that uses a separate radiator?

    Addendum to the poster just before this.
    The transmission is an automatic. And thanks for clarifying the type of fluid the dealer installed. I recall him mentioning a synthetic.

    And BTW, speaking of synthetics, I have used Mobil 1- 5W30 since the vehicle was new.
     
  7. Jul 29, 2008 at 2:24 PM
    #7
    Janster

    Janster Old & Forgetful

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Member:
    #1138
    Messages:
    13,815
    Gender:
    Female
    First Name:
    Jandy
    Lancaster, PA
    Vehicle:
    2007 4.0L 4x4 TRD Sport Access Cab A
    Advantage Torza top (tri-fold), Husky floor mats, RuffTuff seat covers, C2C hood struts, Homelink mirror, USA Spec PA15-Toy (120gig Classic & 8gig nano), Garmin Nuvi 660, Protecta Bed mat, Pop-n-lock, TSB Springs, Scangauge II, Heated drivers seat, Fumoto drain valve, Aries pushbar, PIAA 540 fog lights, Hood scoop grahics, Flowmaster 50 series dual catback exhaust, RainX Latitude windshield wipers, Husky rear floor liner (ontop of folded down seats). Console Vault.
    Do you have the Toyota factory towing package?

    You might already have the transmission oil cooler & engine oil cooler from the factory. If you have this...then you shouldn't need to add an addtional cooler.
     
  8. Jul 29, 2008 at 2:40 PM
    #8
    beeser

    beeser [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Member:
    #8183
    Messages:
    30
    According to what is contained in the link at the top of this thread there was no such thing as a factory towing package for Gen. 1s, at least not as they exist now with Gen 2s. According to stuff I read here and elsewhere, adding the Toyota Class IV hitch and fan clutch with the green band increased the towing capacity from 3500 lbs. to 5000 lbs. The only transmission cooler is the one that uses the engine's radiator. There is no oil cooler. Geez ... I hope this makes sense.

    I forgot to add the reminder that we're talking about a 2004 Tacoma here.
     
  9. Jul 29, 2008 at 6:47 PM
    #9
    maverick491

    maverick491 Towing Guru

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2007
    Member:
    #1462
    Messages:
    1,108
    Gender:
    Male
    South Jersey
    Vehicle:
    07 4x4 Access Cab, TRD off road, 6 cyl, 6 spd
    Activator III brake controller, Extang Fulltilt toneau, Factory bed mat, Extra D-rings in the bed, 2ndary air filter removed, Garmin Ique GPS, Eco-2, AFE Pro Dry-s filter, USASPEC PA12-toy, Pioneer 3-way speakers, SG II on Blendmount, Gulf States Alarm added.
    All automatic transmissions from a f-350 dually to a yugo have a primary trans cooler, and that primary cooler is a small tank in the bottom of the radiator which helps to keep the trans fluid cool. Now while that will be sufficient for the yugo in my example, it would never be enough in an f-350, so most vehicles that could see service as a tow vehicle will have supplimental trans coolers. In the f-350 from our example it will be about half the size of the radiator for the truck. The ones we are talking about for the light to medium duty towing that the Tacomas are designed for will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 6x8 inches and sill be mounted in front of the main radiator and kind of low.

    I would recommend going ahead and adding the supplimental cooler, as realistically it is incredibly difficult to make the transmission fluid too cool, and it is cheap insurance against transmission related problems down the line.

    That said, whoever told you that you'll wear out your truck is full of crap.

    Asside from rear shocks and springs (as there is more weight on them as compared to vehicles who never tow anything) there is nothing that experiences accelerated wear while towing, with the possible exception of the trucks service brakes because while the trailer's brakes help the situation there is still additional load placed on the truck's brakes.

    Rest easy on your Tacoma afterall IT'S A TOYOTA, and enjoy your camping trips.

    Regards,

    Adam
     
  10. Jul 29, 2008 at 7:30 PM
    #10
    beeser

    beeser [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Member:
    #8183
    Messages:
    30
    Adam,

    Thanks for the thoughtful response. What do you think of the earlier comment about waiting to install the supplemental transmission cooler until the warranty expires? Seems that Toyota might make it an issue if warranty work was needed.
     
To Top