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What lift with 800 pounds in extras?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by littlefish, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. Jun 11, 2019 at 5:10 AM
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    littlefish

    littlefish [OP] Buzz, your girlfriend...

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    When I first joined TW I looked into lifting my truck, but decided I didn't really want/need to. Well, less than a year and a lot of money later, I've added enough weight to the truck that upgrading the suspension really isn't optional anymore. I finally realized it when I parked next to a stock OR and realized just how low my truck sits now. My goal is really to only lift about 1" maybe 1.5" above stock where I started. But when I am looking at the advertised lift heights I'm assuming those heights are with a stock truck. So how should I factor in the added weight of my rig in order to lift to my desired height? For weight I have:
    • SSO slimline bumper (67 pounds)
    • 10K Smitty synthetic winch (85 pounds)
    • RCI skid plate set (IFS, tranny, & T-case) (123 pounds)
    • Mobtown Sliders (140 pounds)
    • Prinsu roof rack (40 pounds, maybe?)
    • Diamondback cover (80 pounds)
    • KB Voodoo bed rack, Hi-Lift, & 7 gallons of fuel (sometimes) (145 pounds)
    • CVT RTT (sometimes) (125 pounds)
    • PLUS whatever other camping / recovery gear I have in the truck on trips
    I don't want to lift any higher because I want to avoid needing new UCAs. I also would like to avoid any complications down the line of higher lifts with steeper CV angles or any other added wear and tear on front end components. If possible I'd like to avoid installing the ECGS bearing, but I understand if it will be necessary then I can live with that. Looking to stay at or under a $2,000 budget. The three setups I'm considering are:
    I did send an email out to Marie @HeadStrong Off-Road, but I know they are in the process of moving facilities so I wanted to pick the mindhive here a bit too.
     
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  2. Jun 11, 2019 at 11:15 PM
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    Bilstein 6112/5160 Dakar EL096R Leaf Springs KO2 265/75/16 Tires OCF Rock Sliders Cali-Raised Hidden Lightbar Diamonback Cover HD KB VooDoo Premium Rack CVT Tent ARB Awning
    I personally went with the Bilstein 6112/5160 with Dakar HD leaf pack. Definitely better than the OME shock setup because the front has a 60mm shock and the rear has a remote res.

    The Bilstein combo is probably similar in performance to an Icon stage 2 but you save some money.

    But if you’re getting an HD Dakar for the rear it can be like 3.5-4 inch lift with an empty bed. So I recommend a 2 inch lift for the front (I put my Bilstein 6112 at 6/5)

    I also got bigger tires (265/75/16) which are 31.5 inch diameter instead of the stock 30.5. I went with KO2’s

    Here’s my video

    https://youtu.be/qTO9HHNjpbA
     
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  3. Jun 12, 2019 at 3:32 AM
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    Nice truck! Looks very very similar to my setup. The 6112/5160 is definitely my top choice. 267/75/16 is also my plan once my Falkens wear out. How much lift did you gain in the front over stock? I see you don't have a winch, do you any skids? I'm trying to figure out where I would land on the 6/5 setup with my weight.
     
  4. Jun 12, 2019 at 3:43 AM
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  5. Jun 12, 2019 at 6:37 AM
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    I have the basic TRD off-road skids. I got between 1.5-2 inches in front. It sits at 22.5 inches center hub to fender Front passenger (was 20.5 initially). Can’t say enough about 265/75/16. Plenty of room for up travel, enough clearance below, and no chopping needed!
     
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  6. Jun 12, 2019 at 6:39 AM
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  7. Jun 12, 2019 at 6:56 AM
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    Also a video I made. HD Dakar’s can take about 800-850 lbs in the rear to level with the 2 inch lift Bilstein in the front (not counting my sliders).

    https://youtu.be/NYVGADG6Wro
     
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  8. Jun 12, 2019 at 7:07 AM
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    Posting so i can find this later. I will need to do a similar set up some time in the near future. :)
     
  9. Jun 12, 2019 at 8:51 AM
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    With that much front weight it might make sense to get 650 lb springs and placed at like 3/4 on the Bilstein 6112’s
     
  10. Jun 12, 2019 at 9:39 AM
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    Following. I'm in the same boat. I'm only running maybe 3-500#'s in the bed (no armor, sliders, etc). But, I've found the current suspension crazy soft since new. And now with a bit of a load (GFC, homemade drawer on one side, and a 60# dog :)) I hit the bump stops going over speed bumps - front and rear...

    PS: I don't need any 'lift'. I don't want to screw up the alignment etc.
     
  11. Jun 12, 2019 at 9:57 AM
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    Maybe a Dakar medium pack would work? EL095R
     
  12. Jun 12, 2019 at 10:00 AM
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    A Buck Fity Protein powder one eyed snake Lifting heavy things and putting them down SUSPENSION 2.5 Radflow remote resi front and rear SPC upper control arms Wheelers super bumps 2 inch add a leaf ARMOR Dv8 Front Bumper RCI Front IFS Skid WINCH, TIRES, LIGHTS Badlands 9000lb winch (works great with zero issues) nitto tires Moto Metal 970 18x10 -24 amp power steps Ledheadlights Spyder Led taillights Spyder 20inch light-bar Flowmaster exhaust SOUND SYSTEM Sony xav-ax 100 head unit 2 kicker shallowmounts in a ported box Rockford fosgate p3 all the way around speakers MISC Kobalt toolbox Weathertech floor mats CMC KB Voodoo Heavy Duty Bed bars Victory 4x4 Roof Rack Smitty Built overland Tent
    See my build thread. 700 pound eibach springs in front and 2 inch add a leaf in rear. With all the gear on the truck it is completely level. 2.5 lift in front 1.5 in rear with all gear and 2 without
     
  13. Jun 12, 2019 at 11:34 AM
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    littlefish

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    Thanks for the help everyone. Last time I looked at all this I was getting paralysis by analysis, so this time I jumped into it pretty fast. Just placed an order from @Wheeler's Off-Road Inc after speaking to Travis on the phone. He was great help. I went with the 6112/5160 combo, OME medium duty leaf (I don't always have the extra weight over the bed, and he said I could always add a leaf to that pack to basically recreate the heavy duty pack. If I started with the heavy duty pack I'd be stuck there), and Eibach 700 lb springs. Assembly on the fronts at the 5/4 setting. Also needed the U-bolt kit, carrier bearing drop, and leaf pack bushings. Is there anything else that anyone can think of that I'm missing?

    Also, what is the consensus on needing the ECGS bearing replacement at 1.5" of lift?
     
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