Add-on Air intakes

TRD intake problems, mainly it runs lean and throws codes, still hasn't been fixed by manufacturer:

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2n...-flow-sensor-check-engine-light-question.html

1st generation Volant intake problems, it runs very fat:

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/150075-volant-cold-air-intake-engine-light.html

Just FYI the new version of there intake runs fine. I have one and my AFR's are good.

A dirty fix for the TRD intake throwing codes, but it'll still run lean as mentioned many times in this thread too:

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/te...oma-running-lean-trd-cold-air-intake-fix.html

I haven't found any indications of any other Tacoma CAI's throwing codes unless they are improperly installed. The AFe and Volants both can use dry filters as shown, which will not foul the MAF and give extremely good long life performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyoSx3WfXZ8

http://www.volantpowercore.com/

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1095562

http://afepower.com/technology_detail.php?tech_id=8

http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=747997

Volants power core site is under construction. It sounds like they are coming out with a 2nd generation of there product.

That's your opinion. My point is that most people who have complaints about ALL CAI's are just stating there opinion or the opinion they've heard of others. Very few have done the research or ran a few and can actually give a logical statement.

Here's an example where a CAI didn't just make noise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwNtjKT_1cA

URD also has a few graphs of there intake system making a bit of power. I unfortunately never bookmarked that thread or grabbed an image of the chart. If you contact Gadget on here or on his site I'm sure he will oblige:

http://urdusa.com/

Lots of people spend money to make noise. An exhaust system doesn't gain that much HP for it's cost. Truthfully most people like the sound. It's the same with an intake. Don't judge someone for how they spend their money. There's way to much of that on this site. Think about all the people who spend 2-3K installing a lift and armor just to look bitchin in the parking lot at work. Are they any better/worse? Who really cares? Odds are if you do you're simply jealous they have a spare $300 lying around for feel good mod's that you wish you had for your trail rig...

Here's a discussion on the sound aspect of two different intakes, as well as a bit of personal preference from several members:

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/pe...take-vs-volant-sealed-intake-w-ram-scoop.html

I documented my sources. You're welcome .

 

Yup lol, that's why I'm not making any wild power claims. I'll leave that up to the manufacturer . I'm simply saying in some cases they have advantages. Even if it's just sound and a longer filter life that can be enough to justify some peoples purchases. Everyone needs to calm down on here when it comes commenting on how other people spend there money.

 

So, just like the Premium/octaine argument, people only argue half the information.

Yes, your Tacoma has a cool air intake, but it is not a free-flowing system. The airbox on the Tacoma is pretty complex with lots of passages and air baffles to keep the intake quiet. And you can bet your ass Toyota compromised performance to keep the intake noise down as much as possible because intake noise can be pretty loud.

While YMMV, I fit the first version of the TRD Free Flow airbox and the TRD Cat-back. While my mileage did not improve noticeably. Maybe 1 - 2 mpgs, throttle response and acceleration did improve noticeably. Particularly when towing a trailer. Again YMMV, I'm at 5,000 feet elevation, so anything that helps a motor breathe better up here helps. You may not notice as much at lower elevations.

Also, if you understand how a motor works, it's basically an air pump, so opening the air box without opening the exhaust (or vice versa) is likely not going to have any kind of affect whatsoever. So If you are going to do this, it's usually best to do both together. Which, if you watch that video with the two idiots from Australia, they only fit the airbox, not the exhaust.

My intake;


My Cat-Back;

 

These threads never end well. It's always either people who have never tried a cai and just sh&the on everybody else or people who have had them and get s&@t on. I had an afe and it was fine but loud. I have an air raid now and it's quieter than the afe. Not much difference in mpg but I know there's a difference in power. Worth it? Who can say? I'm happy with it, plus next time I have to change spark plugs it'll be a little easier.

Op, get one or don't, but do it or don't do it because you chose to, don't let people here talk you out of it.

 

I already went over most of this about 20 posts ago .

Good point on the Exhaust/CAI being related, but I'd point out long tube headers and a y-pipe are probably going to yield the best results when paired with an exhaust upgrade and a CAI.

The two idiots from Austrailia just happen to have a video that shows the dyno charts, etc, and they did plenty of replications so it's a good presentation of how a CAI is not totally useless for making more power. Trying to find good videos and charts for just a CAI or just a CAI and exhaust is difficult because most people only post charts for there complete setups (usually F/I, exhaust, intake, and ECU manipulation). Dyno time is expensive. If it were cheap a lot of this kind of stuff would be easier to break down and make totally factual claims on.

 

I remember that thread. I merge both brands together. Kill two birds with one stone

 

If you cannot blow them away with brilliance, Baffle them with bullshit! (wall of text)

As for this nugget:

I could buy and sell you...

 

Or into it.

Go ahead and waste your money if you choose.

 

Have you considered removing the secondary air filter? I saw better throttle response when I deleted mine at 70k miles.
Just my 2 cents, and to add another facet to this discussion

 

I've run CAI on many vehicles. I found that you only find real gains on higher hp na motors or on turbo or sc applications in conjunction with exhaust upgrades. In a na 4 or 6 banger I would spent money elsewhere unless you like the sound.

 

You wanted some sources . I'm all good on the buy and sell, but thanks for the offer.

. Let him spend his money how he wants. I agree boost would be his best choice. That's why one of my first mods was the TRD supercharger and I don't regret that purchase at all. Next option for him would be headers and a new y-pipe. The CAI will sound "louder" which some people like. If he wants that let him buy it. It's not your money.

 

My intake;


is it possible to run this style intake with a snorkle?

 

I have an 06 with a KN filter. I bought it to save time and money since I don't have to replace the air filter every oil change. No MPG gains at all. I follow the instructions and don't over oil the filter and I've had no issues. If you don't like what you choose you can always go back to stock.

 

revenue

 

Why would you ever replace the air filter every 5,000 miles anyway.

 

Here's my opinion. Yes, they can produce more HP and TQ as well as increased MPG. Google CAI's and you'll find a lot of non-blog articles that explain why. Is it a night and day difference, usually no. I've had an AFE s2 since 2008 on my ride and it's been great. It's improved more torque than anything else as it felt like it had more pull off the line. AFE was good about sharing their numbers when I was in the investigation phase back before I bought. Like I said, opinion. Use google and I'm sure you'll figure out if it make sense for you. Me, I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

 

Have been running a TRD reusable air filter for over 15(?) years. Just don't over oil......I have bought 1 paper filter in that time period. Worth the $$$ for me.

 

The factory one? Not every 5K but whatever the specs were on that and I don't remember them off the top of my head.