Shudder in drive train while coming to stop

Yeah, mines an auto, but does it even though I put it in neutral.

 

All signs point to a u-joint or driveline angle/alignment issue so I don't know why Toyota is just dicking around. It wouldn't cost them THAT much to actually inspect one vehicle since they obviously keep flying an "engineer" all over the place.

 

Just got mine back from the dealer and they noticed the vibrations too. So the 20 year tech drove another brand new one on the lot and the same thing. I was told this is caused by the leaf pack in the rear. I asked if it could be from the u bolts being loose and was told they were checked and were torqued to spec. I'm going to double check those tonight. At the end of it I was told it's all normal.

 

I'm actually banned from Toyota in bremerton, wa. I took my truck in for the vibes twice (per their request) and pointed out buzzing at 2000rpm, rattles from JBL. They said I'm a problem because of being nit picky. They put a do not work on my record so can't get serviced in region. Toyota care said it's up to each privately owned dealership. Go toyota!

 

... ^^^ ... That ... "Toyota is going to fly an expert in to inspect your truck" ... what the dealer told you ... sounded super fishy to me ...

Good luck with corporate ... Toyota Corp. has always been reasonable with me in the past. (knock on wood )

 

I now need to wait for the "expert" to submit his report to corporate. Once that is in place, the next step is to determine if I qualify for a buy-back case... if so, then good, if not, then I call my lawyer. Might take some weeks to get resolved.
Although I really feel like Rocky in the last round, emotionally beat up by the dealership, I will not give up. This is total nonsense and Toyota MUST know this... exhausted

 

None of these problems ( vibrators ) are new . You can find remedies in the hundreds or should I say thousands of 2nd gen posts with the same issues .
70 % of the 2nd gen trucks also vibrated for many " multiple " reasons .
Mike Sweers promised us as customers that the 2016 models had " ZERO " vibration issues and none of the serious vibration issues carried over to the 3rd gen .
I think Mike has some explaining to do . This is the very reason I am not driving a 2016 . I didn't believe a single word he said
If I could find the post where I explained this sometime back in 2014 , I would dig it up and post it here

 

So disappointing! I have a feeling I will have to just deal with it..... I have owned it for 6 weeks, now I can't wait to trade it in.... NOT for another Toyota either.

 

Ironically enough I don't remember the vibes before I lifted my truck. As soon as I lifted it, I noticed them. Icons all around and Dakars in the rear with a manual transmission.

 

Lifting without cancelling your drive line angles will do that .
CANCEL DRIVELINE ANGLES http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...tion-free.html

 

Sounds like you have the needle bearing issue which is fixable. Lots of discussion and thread about it here.

Or what gearcruncher said.

 

How do I get the needle bearing replaced, if they say there is no issue?

 

Lets look at some Vibration diagnostics . Anytime someone asks a vibration question , I copy and paste this .
I believe there are at minimum at least 12 different vibration issues assosiated with the Tacoma and all the vibrations / shudders get mixed into the same pot leaving members scratching their heads .
Have you greased your driveline ?http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tec...rks-total.html
Do you know how to grease your driveline properly http://aftermarket.federalmogul.com/...%20FAQ%27s.pdf
Have you checked your carrier bearing https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/how-to-replacing-carrier-bearing.260283/
Does the truck vibrate in park or neutral and does the vibration change with accelarator pedal ?
Does the truck vibrate while holding the brakes and hitting the gas - Automatic ?
Does the truck vibrate in neutral at a stand still ?or coasting in neutral ?
Does the truck vibrate in 4x4 ?
Does the truck " Only vibrate " from 1st to 2nd gear ? https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/vibration-when-accelerating-from-stop-anyone-fixed-it.300155/
Does the truck only vibrate in 2 wheel drive ?https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...differential-bearing-vibration-thread.152173/
Does the truck vibrate with the serpentine belt removed ?
Does the truck vibrate cold or hot ?
Does the truck vibrate if you select nuetral and coast to a slow roll without using the brakes ?
Does the truck vibrate as you are braking ?
Does the truck vibrate with weight in the truck or empty ?
Does the truck vibrate while upshifting ? Have you checked your trans fluid ?
Does the truck vibrate while downshifting ? Have you checked your trans fluid ?
When was your last transmission fluid service ?
Now that you have a lift kit installed the truck vibrates . Did you cancel your drive line angles ?
Have you looked at the condition of your tires ? Toyota says to rotate every 5000 miles .Tacoma tires must be road forced balanced using the Haweka adapter on the tire machine tsu00296.pdf
When was the last time you rotated your tires ? Are you using LUG centric aftermarket wheels ? have you considered " HUB centric rings "http://www.amazon.ca/s/?ie=UTF8&key...vptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_7ybe1f1pby_e
Have the balance weights fallen off the tires ?
The proper and only way to test for bad universal joints is with the driveshaft removed . You cant tell if the universal joints are seized or tight spots with the driveshaft on the truck . You may see play in the universal joints , but you wont be able to properly check the u-joints without removing the driveshaft .All it takes to create a vibration is one seized universal cup and there are 4 cups within each joint .
With this said , you cant tell if that cup is seized with the driveshaft connected .
Removing the driveshaft and manipulate each universal joint by hand from side to side feeling for tight spots as you go is the only way to check for bad u joints
If you beleive its bad motor mounts or transmission mounts , grab a big pry bar and pry at the mounts to see if the rubber is torn or weak .

CANCEL DRIVELINE ANGLES http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...tion-free.html

 

Wow! I wish my dealership would be that thorough!

 

I said that somewhat tongue in cheek. However are you sure your vibration is not the needle bearing? My second generation had the needle bearing vibe after lifting. It was speed dependent but not only related to slowing down.

 

I wonder how much the dealership would charge me to replace the needle bearing.... driver side?

 

Do it yourself if you lifted.

 

is there a youtube link?

 

Plenty of info on tw in the second generation section. East Coast Gear Supply makes and sells the fix.

 

AMEN!