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Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Braves95, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. Aug 20, 2017 at 5:26 PM
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    I'm leaving that to the last option. To bad I can't get Toyota to warranty them. Any idea on cost?
     
  2. Aug 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM
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    Weird. These are the kinds of cv shafts im used to.

    See how the splines are only on the hub side?

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  3. Aug 20, 2017 at 5:31 PM
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    Nope not on here.
     
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  4. Aug 20, 2017 at 5:31 PM
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    It has been off road. Look at the pictures I uploaded. The skids will tell the whole story. But I'll try.
     
  5. Aug 20, 2017 at 5:33 PM
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    Either way, sounds like cv/half shaft related to me. If you go for warranty try a mod friendly dealer or else they may cry about your cv joint angles because of the aftermarket lift. Or if you have your stock front suspension throw that on before you go.
     
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  6. Aug 20, 2017 at 5:35 PM
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    The guy at the dealership is on here. I'll see if he can help.
     
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  7. Aug 20, 2017 at 5:37 PM
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    There is a guy on here that does work for a very large dealership. And only 2 miles from the shop. @like2detail can you help?
     
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  8. Aug 20, 2017 at 5:44 PM
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    How much lift may require a diff drop?
     
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    Adding the battery was all you did to cause it? Did you do ANYTHING else to the truck that day, no matter how small, anything?
     
  11. Aug 21, 2017 at 4:59 AM
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    By adding the bumper , he changed the approach angle of the rear driveshaft . I am willing to bet if he adds weight in the box of the truck the shuddering will become more or less aggressive .
    Do you have an inclineometer ?
    CANCEL DRIVELINE ANGLES http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...tion-free.html
     
  12. Aug 21, 2017 at 5:29 AM
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    But it didn't do it for 7 months. From November to June. Then add battery. Shuttering appeared. Added carrier bearing drop same thing. Removed the rear diveshaft drove it. Same thing.
    I was told to make a new post and put in there what was done. I did. And still am asked the same thing.
     
  13. Aug 21, 2017 at 5:52 AM
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    To rule out drive line angles , try adding weight to the box of the truck as a diagnostic and take the truck for a ride .
    Its an easy test and will answer a few questions for you .
    I will post up my vibration chart . Maybe that will help as well
    Lets look at some Vibration diagnostics . Anytime someone asks a vibration question , I copy and paste this .
    I believe there are at minimum at least 12 different vibration issues assosiated with the Tacoma and all the vibrations / shudders get mixed into the same pot leaving members scratching their heads .
    Have you greased your driveline ?http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tec...rks-total.html
    Do you know how to grease your driveline properly http://aftermarket.federalmogul.com/...%20FAQ%27s.pdf
    Have you checked your carrier bearing https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/how-to-replacing-carrier-bearing.260283/
    Does the truck vibrate in park or neutral and does the vibration change with accelerator pedal ? This is a misfire test for your engine
    Does the truck vibrate while holding the brakes and hitting the gas - Automatic ? This is also a misfire test for your engine under load
    Does the truck vibrate in neutral at a stand still ?or coasting in neutral ?
    Does the truck vibrate in 4x4 ?
    Does the truck " Only vibrate " from 1st to 2nd gear ? https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/vibration-when-accelerating-from-stop-anyone-fixed-it.300155/
    Does the truck only vibrate in 2 wheel drive ?https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...differential-bearing-vibration-thread.152173/
    Does the truck vibrate with the serpentine belt removed ?
    Does the truck vibrate cold or hot ?
    Does the truck vibrate if you select neutral and coast to a slow roll without using the brakes ? What happens when you turn the truck of in Neutral at highway speed ? Can you still feel the vibration ?
    Does the truck clunk over bumps ?https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/tacoma-loose-bed-design-flaw-explanation.388873/
    Does the truck vibrate as you are braking ? When was your last brake job ? Consider the front rotors may be warped or the rear drums are out of round .
    Does the truck vibrate with weight in the truck or empty ?
    Does the truck vibrate while upshifting ? Have you checked your trans fluid ?
    Does the truck vibrate while downshifting ? Have you checked your trans fluid ?
    When was your last transmission fluid service ?
    Is the vibration caused by your torque converter ? Tapping the brake pedal at highway speeds will release the torque converter clutch . You are not actually hitting the brakes ,but manipulating the brake switch . If the vibration goes away you can expect a misfire or a converter clutch issue .
    Read here for more information regarding automatic transmission diagnostics
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...th-pics-for-second-gen-4-liter-trucks.289913/
    Now that you have a lift kit installed the truck vibrates . Did you cancel your drive line angles ?
    Have you looked at the condition of your tires ? Toyota says to rotate every 5000 miles .Tacoma tires must be road forced balanced using the Haweka adapter on the tire machine [​IMG]tsu00296.pdf
    When was the last time you rotated your tires ? Are you using LUG centric aftermarket wheels ? have you considered " HUB centric rings " http://www.amazon.ca/s/?ie=UTF8&key...vptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_7ybe1f1pby_e
    Have the balance weights fallen off the tires ?
    A good vibration technician can tell immediately if your vibration is caused by the rotating speed of your wheels or by the rotating speed of your driveshaft .
    If you go through this list carefully , you should be able to narrow down where the problem is .
    The proper and only way to test for bad universal joints is with the driveshaft removed . You cant tell if the universal joints are seized or tight spots with the driveshaft on the truck . You may see play in the universal joints , but you wont be able to properly check the u-joints without removing the driveshaft .All it takes to create a vibration is one seized universal cup and there are 4 cups within each joint .
    With this said , you cant tell if that cup is seized with the driveshaft connected .
    Removing the driveshaft and manipulate each universal joint by hand from side to side feeling for tight spots as you go is the only way to check for bad u joints
    If you beleive its bad motor mounts or transmission mounts , grab a big pry bar and pry at the mounts to see if the rubber is torn or weak .
     
  14. Aug 21, 2017 at 6:08 AM
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    Have you checked you're alignment lately? You might not have enough caster and when loading the front of the truck changes the CG causing your front to shake like a shopping cart wheel.
     
  15. Aug 21, 2017 at 11:43 AM
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    Glad you got it figured out.
     
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