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Fuel System Cleaner Consolidation Page

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by TacoGlenn, Dec 24, 2018.

  1. Dec 24, 2018 at 1:38 PM
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    TacoGlenn

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    My Tacoma is approaching the 50K mileage mark, and like many of you, I enjoy working on my truck and this includes preemptive maintenance. I always wondered if fuel system cleaners were actually effective.

    As with many products, discerning any consensus on the efficacy appears elusive; just scan through the 25 or so threads already on TW concerning this (see below); and: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-system-cleaner.285056/

    One wrote: “Some people say you should use fuel injector cleaner every time you refuel your vehicle. Other people say you should use it every time you change your oil, and others still say once a year is good enough. Some people go so far as to say that you shouldn’t use it at all.”

    I too tried using Techron before ever oil change during the first 20K, but I had no way to objectively determine if the product was working. I have since religiously used Top Tier gas as my only means for fuel system maintenance.

    This thread covers pour in gasoline fuel system cleaners only. Not included: Gasoline antifreeze and stabilizers, octane boosters, diesel specific products, etc.


    TW Threads

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-system-injector-cleaner-recommendations.570656/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-injector-cleaner.553724/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-injector-cleaner.413730/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/best-fuel-injector-cleaner.285549/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-injector-cleaner.69518/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/lucas-injector-cleaner-work.219014/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/gas-injector-cleaner-and-treatment-suggestions.152662/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/stp-injector-cleaner.35454/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/thoughts-on-lucas-oil-fuel-system-cleaner.501671/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-system-cleaner.490557/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-system-cleaner.285056/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-system-cleaners-worth-the-8-bucks-or-pointless.252921/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-system-additives-cleaners.190661/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-and-additives.562128/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-additives.528049/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-additives.524094/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...-other-fuel-additive-heres-my-results.289057/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/additive-for-cleaning-fuel-injectors.282300/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-additives.241165/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-additive.215685/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-additives.136796/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-additives-discussion.128538/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-additives.126781/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-additives.12240/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/seafoam-vs-b12-chemtool.230252/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/anyone-use-bg-44k-fuel-system-cleaner.589233/

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    General Fuel System Cleaner Discussion

    https://www.cars.com/articles/do-fuel-injectors-need-periodic-cleaning-1420680479051/

    “…Many other gasoline additives that are supposed to clean fuel system parts are also available over the counter, and they may help keep things clean enough so that fuel injector cleaning isn't necessary. The additional detergents found in Top Tier gas should do the same thing, which might be all your fuel system needs.”

    https://repairpal.com/do-fuel-system-additives-really-work

    “…The truth is, many of claims made by fuel injector cleaners haven’t been scientifically proven, and there’s no way to know if they'll work for you… Recent AAA testing (https://newsroom.aaa.com/2016/07/aaa-not-gasoline-created-equal/ ) , using an independent laboratory showed that non-Top Tier gasolines caused 19 times more engine deposits, after only 4,000 miles, than those that meet the Top Tier standards. AAA recommends that drivers use Top Tier Detergent Gasoline.” The AAA study found only 12 percent of U.S. drivers select a gas station based on whether the gasoline contains an enhanced detergent package.


    http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/engine/impp-1106-fuel-system-cleaners/

    A lab testing of one product (not identified)- Conclusion- “ineffective…the problem with pour-in fuel injector cleaners can be two-fold. Effective injector cleaning requires stronger chemicals than can legally be sold in stores for use with emissions-controlled vehicles, and stubborn deposits simply must be dealt with by force—and more of it than an engine’s fuel system can provide, even at 100 percent duty cycle. "Even the injectors we saw today would be passable in most cases, for everyday driving," he admits. "But in high-performance builds, especially in high-strung turbo applications and engines tuned for pump gas, clean fuel injectors are hugely, hugely important."


    https://gobdp.com/blog/fuel-injector-cleaner-work/

    “…No matter what grade of gasoline you purchase or where you buy it from it is not going to be perfectly pure…Even if you purchase the highest octane with all the detergents and fancy additives from the best station in town you are still getting a little more than you pay for. These contaminates in gasoline are why almost all vehicles on the road today are still equipped with fuel filters…Based on the average mileage of most Americans per year, and the average fuel mileage of vehicles sold in the US today, you will use over 570 gallons of gasoline this year. That much gasoline can leave a surprising amount of contaminants in your fuel system.”


    http://www.fuelinjectorcleanerhq.com/do-fuel-injector-cleaners-work/

    “…The truth is, that most liquid cleaners do indeed contain chemicals that are capable of breaking down various pieces of dirt and deposits that disrupt injector function. Chemicals like polybutene amine (PBA), that are found in cleaners, can help clean: Fuel injectors, Carburetors, Intake valves, Ports…With that said, many companies do release inferior products into the market. Products that either lack the chemicals, or dilute them too much for them to be of any use. In the end, those products do little but empty your wallet. For that reason, it is always smart to purchase premium products from reputable companies…I have collected a few user reviews from Amazon about some of the more popular liquid cleaners in order to show that for the majority of people, the effect of these cleaners are quite noticeable…It’s clear to me from both personal experience, as-well as from the science standpoint and from user reports, that liquid cleaners do work if used properly and with reasonable expectations.

    I suggest putting the most stock in the cleaners ability to maintain injector health and cleaning minor clogging issues, and not expecting a fuel additive to clean an engine that has been rusting outside in the rain for two decades. If you keep a cool head and a reasonable mindset, you are definitely going to find value in using fuel injector cleaners. So yes, they do work!”


    https://www.berrymanproducts.com/fuel-system-cleaners-work/

    “…Do fuel system cleaners really work, or are they just there to take your money? The short answer is yes, they do. But not all fuel system cleaners are created equal…Gasoline can leave a surprising amount of contaminants in your fuel system… 2 main causes of deposit buildups in engines- carbon & ethanol…When used regularly, fuel system cleaners can help work to remove harmful deposits and keep new ones from forming. They are especially important for engines running on gasoline containing Ethanol and fuel-injected engines.”


    https://www.angieslist.com/articles/do-fuel-additives-really-work.htm

    “…But are all fuel additives “worthless?” Not necessarily, according to highly rated mechanics. Dawn Dimarco, owner of highly rated Moon Valley Motor Care in Phoenix supplies an additive to customers, some of whom claim they see fuel savings. “It’s more of a preventative thing,” she says. “And it might save you from fuel injection replacement,” because the additives clean the injector…Mitch Schneider, owner of highly rated Schneider’s Auto Repair in Simi Valley, California, says that additives help very little with fuel economy- however, says he does recommend fuel additives for some cars - especially older ones - because they can reduce carbon buildup. “Aside from cleaning the fuel injection, it can reduce carbon in the [engine] valves,” Schneider says. “It can provide an even burn in the combustion. We’ve seen it make a tremendous improvement on some vehicles.”…Other highly rated mechanics, though, feel they’re unnecessary.”


    http://blog.automotive-technology.com/fuel-injector-cleaners-really-work/

    “…When it comes to fuel injector cleaners, there’s definitely some confusion and uncertainty in the market. Talk to any group of car enthusiasts and you’re likely to find yourself in a heated debate on whether these fuel additives actually work or not…It should be immediately noted that there is no published peer reviewed scientific research that specifically relates to fuel injector cleaners or the chemicals that are typically used in them. Much of the information that exists is anecdotal, but that doesn’t necessarily negate the value of that information…Chevron has been adding their Techron formula since 1995- Chevron, despite their huge investment in fuel research, won’t tell us exactly how effective their additive is in testing conditions…The most likely reason for this is that variables for the average consumer are simply too vast, meaning that any released figures would not apply to all Techron customers…While not exactly scientific, we can extrapolate a key point from this information. Injector cleaners will work, but you’ll need the higher concentrations from standalone additives to remove heavier long term deposits from your vehicle….While injector cleaners are effective and can stop new blockages forming, they won’t always be powerful enough for removing heavy deposits.”


    https://tomdwyer.com/2014/uncategorized/the-dirty-truth-about-fuel-injectors/

    “…2004-and-newer vehicles are less likely to need fuel injectors cleaning as often; because newer designs and today’s better fuel additives reduce fouling…There are plenty of “cure-in-a-can” fuel system products, but you shouldn’t waste money or risk damage on these potions. The only do-it-yourself fuel system cleaner that works and won’t damage your car is Techron from Chevron. We’re not talking about relying on the low level they put in their fuel at the pumps, we mean dumping a 20oz bottle into the gas tank. For real benefit, Techron must be used at least every 4,000 miles or so.”


    https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/04/should-i-use-fuel-injector-cleaner-.html

    “…is this stuff a necessary maintenance item or vehicular snake oil? “That’s a question that I get asked quite frequently,” said Duane C. Richardson, technical service engineer with 3M’s automotive aftermarket division. To concisely answer this query he said, “You’re going to notice some difference, I can almost guarantee it.” This is especially true if you go on a lot of short trips in cold temperatures, driving conditions that can exacerbate the formation of carbon deposits inside an engine, harmful build up that robs your car or truck of performance and fuel economy… he said owners of newer cars and trucks will likely not notice any benefits when using fuel-system cleaner because carbon deposits won’t have had a chance to form in these factory-fresh engines.

    Chris Barker, Tech Services Manager at Royal Purple echoed what Richardson noted. He said, “Fuel is chemically less stable than ever before. This is due, in large part, to the use of ethanol as an octane-boosting ingredient.”


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFZhpqv8lOg

    “…The truth of the matter is that fuels injector cleaner removes the gunk from your fuel injectors. Most of the time, dirty fuel injectors are to blame for a loss of power and efficiency from the engine. With that being said, using fuel injector cleaner will likely make your car perform better!”


    https://www.ridemission.com/does-fuel-injector-cleaner-work/

    “…Even if you spend top dollar on the highest quality gasoline, it is still going to contain impurities…The truth is, fuel injector cleaner is necessary; however, how often you add it to your vehicle is up to you. A mechanic can advise you about the process.”


    https://wheelzine.com/fuel-injector-cleaner-does-it-work

    “…The efficiency of a fuel injector cleaner is mainly dependent upon the particular type of cleaner…If you use good quality fuel and take periodic maintenance activities, then you might not have to clean fuel injectors during the whole lifetime of your car.”


    https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a4848/sponsored-content-fuell-additives-reality-vs-fiction/

    “…As a general rule of thumb, when it comes to effectiveness, you get what you pay for... There are three common cleaning agents used in most top selling brands, polyisobutene or PIB, Polyisobutylene amine or PIBA and Polyetheramine or PEA. Most of these are nitrogen based and act as a detergent. If a product lacks a nitrogen based additive, its cleaning ability is negligible…Which detergent and how much of it is in the formula will determine the cleaning power of your fuel additive and the treatment interval. Basically, PIB is good, PIBA is better, and PEA is the best. The ratio of cleaning agents to other fluids in an additive will determine how well it cleans existing deposits and prevents new ones from forming. This ratio can vary considerably by brand and product and is not always reflected in the price. However, if an additive does not contain PEA or one of the other nitrogen-based detergents, it simply is not cleaning…Fuel additives can help with a lot of common fuel system issues, but only if they are used properly and have formulations that will actually do what the label claims. The right product for your situation may not be the same thing you've always used or what the counterman recommends to every guy that walks through the door. If you know what you are paying for and what you are getting out of it, the decision will be pretty simple.”


    https://prudentialtnc.com/fuel-injector-cleaners-really-work/

    “…Some have claimed that the effectiveness of injector cleaners is a myth. I have used fuel injector cleaners severally and I can confirm that they are really effective. I have written a review of some injector cleaners in one of my previous posts.”


    https://www.k1600forum.com/forum/bmw-k1600-maintenance-do-yourself/5201-fuel-additives.html

    overview and list of many fuel system cleaner components


    Online Fora


    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru.../fuels-and-fuel-additives-gasoline-and-diesel

    https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/09/ask-the-best-and-brightest-fuel-injector-cleaner/

    https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=66&t=1542648

    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/3353/honda/civic/fuel-injector-cleaner-does-it-really-work

    https://community.cartalk.com/t/fuel-injection-cleaner-does-it-really-work/87170/6

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070116175315AAJKcFO&guccounter=1

    https://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18430

    https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/o-t-lounge/do-fuel-injector-cleaners-really-work/34812548/

    https://www.quora.com/Do-additives-...eaner-really-help-bring-your-cars-MPG-back-up

    https://www.reddit.com/r/sucksquishbangblow/comments/r6xoh/do_additives_like_seafoam_and_lucas_fuel/

    https://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/do-those-fuel-additives-work-zb0z11zblon

    https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?385356-Does-STP-fuel-injector-cleaner-really-work

    https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/933463

    http://forum.roadfly.com/threads/1698832-Does-Fuel-Injector-Cleaner-Really-Work

    https://mechanics.stackexchange.com...leaners-like-gumout-worth-using-regularly/233

    https://www.2carpros.com/questions/mitsubishi-other-does-techron-fuel-injector-cleaner-work

    https://www.hometheaterforum.com/co...tives-really-work-and-if-so-which-one.207908/



    General Product Reviews


    https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-fuel-sy...MIuabBpaW03wIVDMRkCh2PoA6sEAAYBCAAEgKOQ_D_BwE

    “…spent 46 hours on research, videography, and editing, to review the top choices for this wiki.” 5 Top-ranked products: 1. Royal Purple 11723 Max-Clean; 2. BG 44K; 3. Chevron 65740-CASE Techron; 4. Lubegard 77012 Booster; 5. Lucas


    http://oilandwaterproject.org/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    “…we’re going to talk about five options which really hit the target with consumers.” 5 Top-ranked products: 1. BG 44K; 2. Chevron Techron; 3. Red Line SI-1; 4. Royal Purple Max-Clean; 5. Lucas Fuel Treatment


    https://www.*************/best-fuel-injector-cleaners-reviewed/

    “…We’re here to help you pick the best fuel injector cleaner on the market.” 5 Top-ranked products: 1. Techron; 2. Red Line; 3. Liqiu Molly; 4.STP; 5. Lucas


    https://shedheads.net/best-fuel-injector-cleaner

    “…what brands are proven to be effective.” 5 Top-ranked products: 1. Techron; 2. Red Line; 3. BG44K; 4. Royal Purple; 5. Lucas


    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    “…we’ve made a list of the 15 best fuel injector cleaners on the market today to make your buying decision easier. These are among the most popular and highest rated fuel injector cleaners from around the internet.” 5 Top-ranked products: 1. Techron; 2. Red Line; 3. BG 44k; 4. Royal Purple; 5. Liqui Moly


    https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    “…We’ve taken the time to trawl through some of the most reputable sites on the net – as well as hundreds of user reviews – to find out which fuel injector cleaners are the best, as well as which offer the best value for money.” 5 Top-ranked products: 1. Sea Foam; 2. Royal Purple; 3. Techron; 4. Star Tron; 5. Lucas


    https://www.garagetooladvisor.com/auto/top-6-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    “…Through many hours of research, here are our findings for the best fuel injector cleaners.” 5 Top-ranked products: 1. Sea Foam; 2. Lucas; 3. Red Line; 4. Liqui Moly; 5. Techron


    https://www.2kreviews.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaner/

    “…We’ve done the work for you, analyzing and testing a wide range of products, and coming up with our recommendations.” 2 Top-ranked products: 1. BG 44k; 2. STP 78577 Super Concentrated


    https://mycarneedsthis.com/best-rated-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    “…Main considerations for fuel injector cleaners- cost efficiency and cleaning potency…” 7 Top-ranked products: no order- Liqui Moly; BG 44k; Royal Purple; Lucas; Techron, Star Tron; Red Line


    https://autodeets.com/fuel-injector-cleaner/

    “…are judged based on their cost efficiency/relative price and their cleaning potency (which will be determined by its ingredients). However, factors such as ease of use and length of productive life also come into play.” 5 Top-ranked products: 1. Red Line; 2. Techron; 3. BG 44k; 4. Royal Purple; 5. Lucas


    https://fuelinjectorcleaner.reviews/

    “…So keeping all of this in mind we started out looking for some of the best fuel injector cleaner systems and have come up with the following list of recommendations. These have all been tested either by our own engineers, our top 5 choices, or by other trusted workshops, and we also checked the ingredients list to make sure that they were made using those important base additives we have already talked about.” 5 Top-ranked products: 1. BG 44k; 2. Lucas; 3. Techron; 4. Red Line; 5. Royal Purple


    https://reviews.mcall.com/reviews/b...MI3868jvO23wIVvh-tBh0WtA1cEAAYAiAAEgJbPvD_BwE

    “…BestReviews spends thousands of hours researching, analyzing, and testing products to recommend the best picks for most consumers- (36 models, 7 hours, 1 expert, 215 consumers).” 5 Top ranked products: 1. Red Line; 2. Royal Purple; 3. Lucas; 4. BG 44k; 5. Liqui Moly


    https://www.ridemission.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaner/

    “…an independent website run by a group of auto enthusiasts.” 5 Top ranked products: 1. Red Line; 2. Techron; 3. STP 78577; 4. BG 44k; 5. Liqui Moly


    http://www.hcdmag.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaner/

    “…We break down the facts below and give you our pick for the best fuel injector cleaner on the market.” 3 Top ranked products” 1. Seafoam; 2. Techron; 3. Lucas


    http://prudentialtnc.com/

    No methodology stated. 4 Top ranked products: 1. Techron; 2. STP 78577; 3. Red Line; 4. Fuel Injector Pro


    https://simplemechanic.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaner-review/

    nice links to more scientific inquiry : https://www.deepdyve.com/lp/elsevie...rostructure-of-combustion-engine-AkfTr5jxsP/9

    https://www.sae.org/publications/technical-papers/content/962012/

    “…Our conclusion is that if your engine does have a significant amount of carbon buildup, additives with PNA can be used to help remove that build-up. However, if your car is new or has a clean engine (typically those that you use every day so they are not sitting for long periods of time) simply using high-quality gasoline should ensure you keep your engine clean and running well. Those cars that are regularly used in heavy traffic may find they benefit from an additive.” 5 Top ranked products: 1. Seafoam; 2. BG 44k; 3. Liqui Moly; 4. Red Line; 5. Techron



    https://procarreviews.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    no methodology stated- 5 Top ranked products, NO Order- Techron, Lucas, Red Line, Liqui Moly, BG 44k


    https://automobileremedy.com/blog/5-best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    no methodology stated- Top 5 ranked products- 1. Red Line; 2. Liqui Moly; 3. Lucas; 4. BG 44k; 5. Techron


    http://www.hcdmag.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaner/

    no methodology stated- Top 2 ranked products- 1. Seafoam; 2. Techron


    https://www.geekwrapped.com/guides/best-fuel-system-cleaners

    no methodology stated- Top ranked product- 1. Bg 44k


    https://researchcore.org/todays-best-fuel-injector-cleaners-reviews/

    based on “average user satisfaction”- 5 Top ranked products- 1. Liqui Moly; 2. Lucas; 3. Royal Purple; 4. Red Line; 5. Techron


    https://brainyconsumer.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaner/

    no methodology stated – 9 top ranked products, No Order- Techron, Royal Purple, Sea Foam, Liqui Moly, Lucas, Star Tron, Berryman, IsoHeet, Lubguard. (10th product was for Diesel; this list not included in overall averages)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DarDKUgKbIQ

    no methodology stated – 5 Top ranked products- 1. BG 44k; 2. Lubeguard; 3. STP; 4. Star Bright; 5. Techron


    https://consumercure.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaner/

    “We have properly researched and tested all products that we have listed here on basis of performance, budget, working capability and user ratings- Editors Choice- Red Line; other ranked products, No Order- Liqui Moly, STP, BG 44k, Royal Purple, Techron, Lucas, Star Tron, Marvel Mystery Oil



    https://gear4wheels.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaner/

    “…we’ve tested, analyzed and reviewed well known brands as well as some newcomers to see who performs the best.” – 3 Top ranked products: 1. Lucas; 2. Seafoam; 3. Royal Purple


    Top 5 based on average of 24 General reviews:

    1. Red Line

    2. Techron

    3. BG 44k

    4. Seafoam

    5. Royal Purple

    Honorable mentions: Liqui Moly, Lucas



    Products


    3M

    https://www.amazon.com/3M-08812-Injector-Cleaner-Bottle/dp/B000IOFJKO?ie=UTF8&th=1#customerReviews 109 amazon reviews – average: 3.1 stars


    https://www.amazon.com/3M-08814-Strength-System-Cleaner/dp/B001AIZ3WG?ie=UTF8#customerReviews 11 amazon reviews- average: 4.2 stars


    https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3568039/3M™_Max_Strength_Fuel_System_C




    Amsoil P I

    https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-prod...formance-improver-gasoline-additive/?code=API company site with product bulletin; 253 reviews – average: 4.9 stars

    https://hqsynthetics.com/2012-chevy-cruse-test-results-with-amsoil-p-i-performance-improver

    https://www.truckmodcentral.com/threads/my-experience-with-amsoil-pi-performance-improver.29174/

    https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3277121/Re:_Techron_Concentrate_Plus_o

    https://www.f150online.com/forums/v8-engines/150056-amsoil-pi-improver.html

    https://www.subaruoutback.org/forum...oil-pi-additive-causes-o2-sensor-problem.html

    https://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/f11/amsoil-p-i-fuel-additive-results-34479/

    https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343224

    https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2774085

    https://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304451





    Archoil AR6400-G

    https://www.archoil.com/collections...0-fuel-system-cleaners?variant=12421962727506 company site with MSDS availability


    https://www.amazon.com/Ar6400-G-16o...r=1-2&keywords=Archoil+AR6400#customerReviews 9 Amazon reviews – 16 oz - average: 4.4 stars



    Berryman B12

    https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2679730

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/280249/BerryMan_B12_or_Fuel_Injector_

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1814477

    https://www.corvetteforum.com/forum.../3148214-sea-foam-versus-berryman-b-12-a.html

    https://www.clublexus.com/forums/maintenance/774223-seafoam-vs-b12-chemtool.html

    https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/seafoam-or-berrymans-b-12.28660/

    https://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?71463-Berryman-s-B12-vs-SeaFoam

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/seafoam-vs-b12-chemtool.230252/

    http://www.fuelly.com/forums/f8/seafoam-vs-berryman-b12-chemtool-15301.html

    http://www.altrabiofuels.com/berryman-0116-b-12-injector-cleaner-review/

    https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1882935-B12-Chemtool-Marvel-Mystery-Oil

    http://www.fuelinjectorcleanerhq.co...r-fuel-treatment-and-injector-cleaner-review/

    https://www.amazon.com/Berryman-011...&sr=1-2&keywords=Berryman+B12#customerReviews 32 amazon reviews- 16 oz- 4.1 stars

    https://www.amazon.com/Berryman-011...&sr=1-1&keywords=Berryman+B12#customerReviews 171 Amazon reviews – 12 pack- 4.4 stars




    BG 44K

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2520142

    https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=266631

    https://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718897

    https://parkingday.org/bg-44k-fuel-system-cleaner-review/

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.autos.tech/uxCpKtd29Oo

    https://www.f150online.com/forums/v8-engines/92342-bg-44k-techron-concerns.html

    http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/613489-techron-vs-bg44k.html

    https://www.*************/best-fuel-injector-cleaners-reviewed/

    https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-fuel-sy...MI9uWm7Ky03wIVWx-tBh0F4QxUEAAYBCAAEgJmH_D_BwE

    http://oilandwaterproject.org/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://shedheads.net/best-fuel-injector-cleaner

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://mycarneedsthis.com/best-rated-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://autodeets.com/fuel-injector-cleaner/

    https://www.2kreviews.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaner/

    https://www.kia-forums.com/1784882-post10.html

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...P9zKf3VQ2Mg&slotNum=1&ie=UTF8#customerReviews 135 amazon reviews – 4 pack of 11 oz cans- average: 4.5 stars

    https://www.amazon.com/BG-44K-Syste...ds=BG+44K+Fuel+System+Cleaner#customerReviews 824 Amazon reviews – 11 oz can – average: 4.4 stars



    Blue Devil

    https://store.gobdp.com/fuel-system-cleaner-00202/ company site with MSDS availability

    https://www.amazon.com/BlueDevil-Fuel-System-Cleaner-Ounce/dp/B00DJ6N5V8#customerReviews 9 Amazon reviews – average: 3.8 stars

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4654404/How_good_is_Blue_Devil_Complet



    Forté Fuel System Cleaner

    http://www.forte-benelux.com/EN/Forte-Products/Car/Fuel/Fuel-System-Cleaner.html

    Company site


    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Forte-Lubricants-Specialist-Injector-Cleaner/dp/B0035PRJRY

    30 Amazon reviews – average: 4.3 stars


    https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=48199



    Fuel Injector Pro

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XS62VL7#customerReviews

    42 Amazon reviews – average: 4.5 stars


    Gumout

    https://www.*************/best-fuel-injector-cleaners-reviewed/

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.amazon.com/Gumout-Exper...525523&sr=1-5&keywords=Gumout#customerReviews

    4 Amazon reviews- 3 10oz bottles – average: 4.5 stars

    https://www.amazon.com/Gumout-51001...W&refRID=PBYMWW6ZZ1FX01PBGAPW#customerReviews 99 Amazon reviews – 6 oz bottle – average: 4.3 stars



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJSIHGDwMtU

    “…tested Gumout "All in one" fuel system cleaner. I use a mini borescope camera to look into the engine and see how dirty the engine is before the fuel treatment and then after the fuel treatment. I followed the instructions on the container and Gumout fuel cleaner did a great job cleaning the shiny, sludge buildup, but did not work as well as I would have thought on the clumps of hard carbon buildup. It did not clean the cylinders as much as I thought it would since they do say one bottle will clean the engine... Even after two bottles in a row, it did not clean the cylinders as much as I thought it would since they do say one bottle will clean the engine.”


    Iso-Heet

    https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.amazon.com/ISO-HEET-282...5958&sr=1-1&keywords=Iso-Heet#customerReviews

    110 Amazon reviews – 12oz bottle – average: 4.5 stars


    Liqui Moly

    https://www.*************/best-fuel-injector-cleaners-reviewed/

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.garagetooladvisor.com/auto/top-6-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://mycarneedsthis.com/best-rated-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://autodeets.com/fuel-injector-cleaner/

    https://www.helpful.reviews/en/product/7/liqui-moly-2007-jectron-gasoline-fuel-injection-cleaner

    https://www.amazon.com/Liqui-Moly-2...74&sr=1-7&keywords=Liqui+Moly#customerReviews

    399 Amazon reviews – 300ml can – average: 4.4 stars

    https://www.amazon.com/Liqui-Moly-G...4&sr=1-11&keywords=Liqui+Moly#customerReviews

    42 Amazon reviews – 4-pack cans- average: 4.7 stars


    Lube Control FP 60

    https://www.lubecontrol.com/products/fp60-32-oz
    (company site with testimonials and tests)

    https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/anyone-using-used-lube-control-lc20-fp60-101378/

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/2306870/FP_Plus_and_FP60

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1177053

    https://www.nissanforums.com/b13-91-94-chassis/120426-my-experience-fuel-power-fp60-lube.html

    https://www.civicforums.com/forums/...maintenance/234755-lubecontrol-lc20-fp60.html


    Lube Guard

    https://www.lubegard.com/products/fsb/

    company site with MSDS availability

    https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-fuel-sy...MI9uWm7Ky03wIVWx-tBh0F4QxUEAAYBCAAEgJmH_D_BwE

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3020639

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00BZMQSVC/ezfuelsystemcleaners-20#customerReviews 52 Amazon reviews – 16oz can - average: 4.7 stars



    Lucas

    https://lucasoil.com/testimonials?id=5

    company site with 19 reviews

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/889645/Chevron's_"Techron"_

    https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-fuel-sy...MI9uWm7Ky03wIVWx-tBh0F4QxUEAAYBCAAEgJmH_D_BwE

    http://oilandwaterproject.org/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.*************/best-fuel-injector-cleaners-reviewed/

    https://shedheads.net/best-fuel-injector-cleaner

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.garagetooladvisor.com/auto/top-6-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://mycarneedsthis.com/best-rated-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://autodeets.com/fuel-injector-cleaner/

    https://www.quora.com/Does-Lucas-Fuel-Injector-Cleaner-really-work

    https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1705685-lucas-fuel-system-cleaner-techron-cleaner.html

    https://acurazine.com/forums/second...ncentrate-got-favorite-if-so-tell-why-889152/

    https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B003JTYGPO/ezfuelsystemcleaners-20#customerReviews 139 amazon reviews – 10512 Deep Clean Fuel System Cleaner, 16oz bottle, - average 4.6 stars

    https://www.amazon.com/Lucas-10020-...1&refRID=YYVC7N3FQRB9VPSRYMD1#customerReviews 207 Amazon reviews – 10020 Fuel Treatment , 5.25oz bottle, – average: 4.5 stars



    Marvel Mystery Oil

    http://www.marvelmysteryoil.com/products/marvel-mystery-oil/

    company site with 58 testimonials – average: 4.7 stars

    https://www.amazon.com/d/Engine-Oil-Additives/Marvel-MM12R-Mystery-Oil-oz/B0009JKGKG#customerReviews

    493 amazon reviews – 16oz bottle – average: 4.6 stars

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Mystery_Oil

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1882935-B12-Chemtool-Marvel-Mystery-Oil



    Motor Craft PM6

    https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/Main/searchmsds.asp

    MSDS

    https://www.*************/best-fuel-injector-cleaners-reviewed/

    https://www.amazon.com/Motorcraft-PM6-Fuel-Injector-Cleaner/dp/B00130H8I8#customerReviews

    6 Amazon reviews – 12oz bottle – average: 5.0 stars


    Red Line

    https://www.redlineoil.com/si-1-complete-fuel-system-cleaner

    company site with MSDS availability

    http://oilandwaterproject.org/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-fuel-sy...MI9uWm7Ky03wIVWx-tBh0F4QxUEAAYBCAAEgJmH_D_BwE

    https://www.*************/best-fuel-injector-cleaners-reviewed/

    https://shedheads.net/best-fuel-injector-cleaner

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://autodeets.com/fuel-injector-cleaner/

    https://www.garagetooladvisor.com/auto/top-6-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://mycarneedsthis.com/best-rated-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1191253

    https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000CPI5Z0/ezfuelsystemcleaners-20#customerReviews 793 Amazon reviews – 15oz. bottle- average: 4.4 stars


    Royal Purple

    http://www.royalpurpleconsumer.com/wp-content/uploads/Max-Clean_Product_Page.pdf

    company site

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BocH2c4mYcc

    “…test Royal Purple Max Clean Fuel System Cleaner in a Ford Explorer. I use a borescope camera to look into the engine and see how dirty the engine is before the fuel treatment and then after the fuel treatment. This is the first time I looked at intake runners and valves, and I also looked at the piston head. I followed the instructions on the container and Royal Purple did clean some carbon off the intake runners, valves, and piston heads. This is the best in fuel system cleaner I have used that goes in the gas (so far).”

    http://oilandwaterproject.org/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-fuel-sy...MI9uWm7Ky03wIVWx-tBh0F4QxUEAAYBCAAEgJmH_D_BwE

    https://www.*************/best-fuel-injector-cleaners-reviewed/

    https://shedheads.net/best-fuel-injector-cleaner

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.garagetooladvisor.com/auto/top-6-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://mycarneedsthis.com/best-rated-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://autodeets.com/fuel-injector-cleaner/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-additives.524094/#post-16675975

    https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00BGS31MO/ezfuelsystemcleaners-20#customerReviews

    672 Amazon reviews – average: 4.4 stars

    https://www.amazon.com/Royal-Purple...s/B00XF03K54?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

    166 Amazon reviews – average: 4.3 stars

    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rpo-11722/reviews/

    40 reviews


    Sea Foam

    https://seafoamsales.com/auto/

    company site with MSDS availability

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1814477

    https://www.corvetteforum.com/forum.../3148214-sea-foam-versus-berryman-b-12-a.html

    https://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?71463-Berryman-s-B12-vs-SeaFoam

    https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1705685-lucas-fuel-system-cleaner-techron-cleaner.html

    https://acurazine.com/forums/second...ncentrate-got-favorite-if-so-tell-why-889152/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/seafoam-vs-b12-chemtool.230252/

    http://www.fuelly.com/forums/f8/seafoam-vs-berryman-b12-chemtool-15301.html

    https://www.clublexus.com/forums/maintenance/774223-seafoam-vs-b12-chemtool.html

    https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/seafoam-or-berrymans-b-12.28660/

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.garagetooladvisor.com/auto/top-6-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://autodeets.com/fuel-injector-cleaner/

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N58VRY...9&ie=UTF8&qid=1545543217&sr=1#customerReviews

    194 Amazon reviews – 16oz. 2-pack – average: 4.6 stars


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6UeJXkzDW8

    “…test Seafoam in a Honda Civic Si. I use a mini borescope camera to look into the engine and see how dirty the engine is before the fuel treatment and then after the fuel treatment. I followed the instructions on the container and seafoam did a great job cleaning a good amount of carbon off the piston head. I am impressed by the results and finally we have proof that seafoam actually works!”


    Sta-Bil

    http://sta-bil.co.uk/product/sta-bil-ethanol-fuel-treatment-stabilizer/

    company site with testimonials

    https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-fuel-sy...MI9uWm7Ky03wIVWx-tBh0F4QxUEAAYBCAAEgJmH_D_BwE

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0081ZVBDQ/ezfuelsystemcleaners-20#customerReviews 330 amazon reviews – average: 4.8 stars


    Star Brite Star Tron

    https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-fuel-sy...MI9uWm7Ky03wIVWx-tBh0F4QxUEAAYBCAAEgJmH_D_BwE

    https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://mycarneedsthis.com/best-rated-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00U2J9DWK/ezfuelsystemcleaners-20#customerReviews 160 amazon reviews – average: 4.5 stars


    STP

    http://www.stp.com/products/fuel-additives/ULTRA-5-in-1-PLUS-Fuel-System-Cleaner-Fuel-Stabilizer company site

    http://www.stp.com/products/fuel-additives/ultra-5-in-1-fuel-system-cleaner

    company site

    https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-fuel-sy...MI9uWm7Ky03wIVWx-tBh0F4QxUEAAYBCAAEgJmH_D_BwE

    https://www.*************/best-fuel-injector-cleaners-reviewed/

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.2kreviews.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaner/

    https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00K5L8H1I/ezfuelsystemcleaners-20#customerReviews 45 amazon reviews – STP Ultra 12oz. bottle – average: 4.2 stars


    Techron

    https://www.chevronlubricants.com/en_us/home/products/techron-complete-fuel-system-cleaner.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuabBpaW03wIVDMRkCh2PoA6sEAAYAiAAEgL6v_D_BwE&mkwid=s1GlwjlJ0_316071325156_fuel system cleaner review_e_c&mtid=744bv356395&slid=&product_id company site with MSDS availability

    https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=266631

    https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/889645/Chevron's_"Techron"_

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.autos.tech/uxCpKtd29Oo

    https://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718897

    https://www.f150online.com/forums/v8-engines/92342-bg-44k-techron-concerns.html

    http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/613489-techron-vs-bg44k.html

    http://oilandwaterproject.org/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-fuel-sy...MI9uWm7Ky03wIVWx-tBh0F4QxUEAAYBCAAEgJmH_D_BwE

    https://shedheads.net/best-fuel-injector-cleaner

    https://www.autoguide.com/top-15-best-fuel-injector-cleaners

    https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://www.garagetooladvisor.com/auto/top-6-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://mycarneedsthis.com/best-rated-fuel-injector-cleaners/

    https://autodeets.com/fuel-injector-cleaner/

    https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3277121/Re:_Techron_Concentrate_Plus_o

    https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1705685-lucas-fuel-system-cleaner-techron-cleaner.html

    https://acurazine.com/forums/second...ncentrate-got-favorite-if-so-tell-why-889152/

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00092893...b-0676-11e9-976d-331c5380a38c#customerReviews 947 amazon reviews – 12oz. bottle 12-pack- average: 4.5 stars

    https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0097SDUTE/ezfuelsystemcleaners-20#customerReviews 96 amazon reviews – 20oz. bottle 6-pack – average: 4.7 stars

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...P9zKf3VQ2Mg&slotNum=3&ie=UTF8#customerReviews

    11 Amazon reviews

    https://tomdwyer.com/2014/uncategorized/the-dirty-truth-about-fuel-injectors/

    “…The only do-it-yourself fuel system cleaner that works and won’t damage your car is Techron from Chevron. We’re not talking about relying on the low level they put in their fuel at the pumps, we mean dumping a 20oz bottle into the gas tank. For real benefit, Techron must be used at least every 4,000 miles or so.”

    https://www.kia-forums.com/1783578-post6.html


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8i9qftqKNY

    “…tested Techron Concentrate Plus by Chevron. I use a mini borescope camera to look into the engine and see how dirty the engine is before the fuel treatment and then after the fuel treatment. I followed the instructions on the container and Techron performed similarly to Gumout.”



    Valvoline Complete Fuel System Cleaner

    http://valvolinechemicals.com/products/valvoline-complete-fuel-system-cleaner

    company site

    https://www.walmart.com/reviews/product/35513142

    17 reviews

    https://www.axtroonline.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=426285

    8 reviews



    The Evidence

    The bulk of the evidence is anecdotal, scientific evidence is hard to come by:

    “It should be immediately noted that there is no published peer reviewed scientific research that specifically relates to fuel injector cleaners or the chemicals that are typically used in them…Chevron, despite their huge investment in fuel research, won’t tell us exactly how effective their additive is in testing conditions…Much of the information that exists is anecdotal, but that doesn’t necessarily negate the value of that information.” http://blog.automotive-technology.com/fuel-injector-cleaners-really-work/

    Numerous product reviews on the web state no methodology, or are nakedly anecdotal in their methodology:

    “…These are among the most popular and highest rated fuel injector cleaners from around the internet.”

    “…we’re going to talk about five options which really hit the target with consumers.”

    Some reviews sounded a bit more "scientific":

    “…spent 46 hours on research, videography, and editing, to review the top choices for this wiki.”

    “…spends thousands of hours researching, analyzing, and testing products to recommend the best picks for most consumers.”

    but details were lacking.


    One factor not considered in most tests I’ve seen is the fuel history of the engine being tested. Video documentation of a cleaner reducing carbon deposits in the cylinder is fine, but if that engine had been using Top Tier gas exclusively throughout its life, would there be as much carbon to begin with? An AAA study found only 12 percent of U.S. drivers select a gas station based on whether the gasoline contains an enhanced detergent package. Granted, no gasoline is pure, but perhaps exclusive use of Top Tier fuels (combined with an occasional “Italian tune-up”) may be an important strategy in inhibiting injector fouling and carbon buildup.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C9Ie4BcYew

    Search Results for Query: top tier | Tacoma World

    TOP TIER™ Gasoline Brands (toptiergas.com)



    Conclusion

    The sheer mass of anecdotal information, as well as some video documentation of some carbon removal, provides supportive evidence that some liquid cleaners can work, at least to some degree- if used properly and with reasonable expectations. Fuel system cleaners which contain high concentrations of Polyetheramine (PEA) may inhibit blockages forming, especially engines running on gasoline containing ethanol and high-performance engines; but these standalone additives are probably not powerful enough to completely remove heavy deposits.

    Finally, these sentiments…

    ” Can't really tell if it's good or bad, but for some reason, I look forward to putting it in. I guess somewhere in the back of my little mind, I think I'm doing my truck a favor.” https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/lucas-injector-cleaner-work.219014/#post-5065581

    “I use it, I have no proof or evidence that it helps, but for 3 bucks and the psychological belief that it’s keeping my injectors clean, I'll keep using it.” https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/lucas-injector-cleaner-work.219014/#post-5075653



    Misc. Links:

    https://www3.epa.gov/otaq/fuels1/ffars/web-gas.htm

    Federal Government register of all gasoline additives.


    https://doi.org/10.1016/j.rser.2013.08.051

    "...
    comprehensive review of various fuel injection strategies viz varying injection pressure, injection rate shapes, injection timing and split/multiple injections for engine performance improvement..."
     
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    TacoGlenn [OP] Nobody Makes a Monkey Outta Me!

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    '13 MGMAC 2.7L SR5
    Hellwig 1251's, Leer 122, Kahtec smart stop delay flashing 3rd brake light, de-chromed, de-badged, WeatherTech mats, WeatherTech side window deflectors,

    Per Safety Data Sheets (SDS):


    Red Line
    Phillips 66 MSDS Search Tool

    34.5% PEA


    Techron
    msds-techron-concentrate-plus---eng.pdf (techronworks.pl)

    15-40% PEA


    BG 44K
    208_US_Canada (lps.org)

    Stoddard solvent 10-30% (used instead of PEA?)
    Stoddard Solvent - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics


    Royal Purple
    unable to access SDS

    Sea Foam
    Microsoft Word - Sea Foam Motor Treatment-SDS-US-ENG-v20180911.docx (seafoamworks.com)

    PEA not listed
    “Polyolefin alkyl phenol alkyl amine” is listed at 5-10% - which I believe is a similar chemical to PEA

    Liqui Moly
    unable to access SDS


    Based on stated percentage of PEA, Red Line may be best, but maybe Techron if at 40% - I don't know why there is a stated range in Techron.

    We need a chemist to chime in to differentiate between PEA, "Polyolefin alkyl phenol alkyl amine" (Sea foam), and "Stoddard Solvent" (BK 44G)

    Honestly, since originally posting this, I've been using a bottle of Techron before each oil change- "...I think I'm doing my truck a favor." :D
     
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