Rear disc brakes?

The mean average of the disc brake trucks unloaded is 143.2 compared to 147.7 of the Tacoma so it's 3% difference, the mean average of the loaded disc brake trucks is 147.2 compared to the Tacoma at 156.6 is 6% difference.

Better performance, sure but is it a significant amount? No.

 

not worth putting $1500 to gain that 6% especially if people are looking for that be their first upgrade to the brake system

 

07 January 2015: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2016-has-rear-drum-brakes.358171/

24 April 2017: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/tacoma-rear-disc-brakes.487979/

25 December 2017: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/big-ole-brake-upgrade-thread-for-third-gens.525568/

24 February 2018: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/has-anyone-retrofitted-disc-brakes-in-the-rear.535798/

02 March 2018: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/rear-disc-conversion-information.536765/

18 April 2018: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/jonsing-for-rear-disc-brakes-but-not-at-3k.544819/

16 May 2018: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/is-there-a-rear-disk-brake-upgrade.549512/

08 June 2018: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/hydro-boost-and-rear-disc-brakes.553101/

19 August 2018: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2018-review-drum-brakes-at.564254/

11 April 2019: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2019-rear-disc-brake-kit.604113/

12 July 2019: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/3rd-gen-rear-drum-brakes.618944/

02 September 2019: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/rear-disc-brakes.627512/

13 February 2020: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/does-the-2020-tacoma-have-rear-disc-brakes.652430/

 

yep. 19 4runner’s brakes are very spongy-like and I need to press deep into the pedal. Not very confidence inspiring. On the other hand, 17 taco’s brakes have a much shorter engagement point and smoother feel.

I much prefer driving the Taco than the 4runner... even with the drum brakes.

 

You didn't answer my question. Other than a few hundred bucks at the dealer, what downside is there to discs?

 

Yup. SOS makes the backing plate and a small emergency brake cable adapter. Everything else comes straight from Toyota. The hardest part was removing the OEM backing plate from the drum brakes. I found it easiest to remove the axle and do it that way. No need for bearing removal or anything like that. Axle comes right out after you unbolt the bearing housing. Then cut away.

I'm pretty sure the UPI kit and the Pedder's kit are one and the same. In case anyone was wondering.

As far as them suggesting a master cylinder upgrade isn't necessary. I would agree. I ran mine with the OEM master cylinder for a bit, and it wasn't that bad. Doing the swap over to the Sequoia just made the pedal feel better and perhaps a little better braking force.

The cost from SOS for the kit can be reduced. Or at least I was able to save a bunch of money. I got everything I could from Rock Auto, and then just got the backing plate kit from SOS. I want to say just the conversion kit was around $800 when all was said and done.

 

I did answer it, maintenance in the long run with rotors and pads would be more frequent than drums. Like I said in my case, in over 30+ years I've never had to replace / repair drums in any of my 5 trucks.

 

I had 180,000 on my 05 tacoma, never touched the drums.

 

This thread needs a drum brake...

 

@vecdran weight does have bias however my F150 and the 2020 Ford F150 I test drove before buying this most recent Tacoma, did not share the same front brake bias as the Tacoma has. The braking isn't even close to being balanced on the Tacoma compared to other pickups, cars, and SUVs. It's never been great in this category and its why they've always needed front brakes around 30-40k.

 

Discs are definitely more noisy & dirty. Definitely have to replace them more often. You still need to have a solution for a parking brake if you have rear discs - especially for a manual tranny. The fronts do most of the braking anyways. Not to mention how light the rear end is. With no weight on the rear end, how can you benefit at all from a better biting brake setup?

On the other hand, discs brake pads definitely are much easier to replace. And "looks cooler" since everyone is concerned with looking cool.

 

Rears don't need changing nearly as frequently as fronts to begin with, but even then pads are cheap and it takes as long to get your tools out and wheels off as it does to change pads unless you need rotors turned. For me that's an easy trade. I'm convinced that you just want to argue if that's your reasoning for drum superiority. I don't care how long you have had trucks, I'm not some rookie. I grew up working on circle track cars with my dad who raced. I have done full frame off rebuilds on 2 trucks and am working now on a third. I have had two track cars that had pad changes every time I got the track and when I left. I have replaced pads hundreds of times. I'll start a petition to go back to 4 wheel drums on the 2021 Tacoma and we can all save $300 on our next truck buy.

 

People just like overbuilding their shit for more than they actually need. How many trails actually require you to have 35’s or 37’s versus 33’s? And how many folks actually take their trucks on trails that extreme? Go ahead keep telling yourself you need an extreme build, should get a big brake kit if you “need” ultimate stopping power so bad.

 

Rear braking is used more when loaded or towing then empty for sure. Rear discs have an internal drum e-brake.

 

Sorry, you're right. On average the other 4 stopped 4.05 feet longer when loaded. The Tacoma stopped 8.9 feet longer... 2.2 times worse than the average of the rest of the group . All while having the second lightest payload added. Chevy - 1360 pounds, GMC 1400, Honda 1320 (lower payload than a Ridgline!) 880 for Nissan and 1000 for Toyota.

 

Of course we do. That's our thing. Dude, you bought a Pro. And those trails that "need" 35s or 37s, we don't even need to drive on them. I also don't need rifles that shoot half MOA at 500 yards when I can't, or giant titanium drivers when I suck at golf. So what? 'Merica

 

People like to re-invent the wheel. Fix shit that ain't broke, brother.
Do it for Dale!

 

So what....

I'm not saying drums are superior to disc brakes, I'm saying there's no need to put rear discs on a Tacoma if drums work just fine. Judging by the sales over the other trucks in the segment most consumers seem to agree.


You seem to be the one with a chip on his shoulder by "justifying" your view by your "experience in changing pads". I don't really care how fast you can change your pad, I haven't had the need to do anything with drums, most other people seem fine with that too.

 

My dude can I get some memes up in this motherfucker

 

def several threads on this topic. which I assume has been mentioned. If someone you really want to do there are people that are helpful but expect a ton of this is a waste of time comments. If you are an Off Road or Pro model you will not be able to upgrade the master easily. I have a rear kit that has been sitting to the side due to that. I may get to it at some point but need more info on it. The conversions also use 5th gen brakes except the ones that went with BBK like @MESO